Posted on 04/23/2022 2:19:53 PM PDT by McGruff
“That was proposed to the Russians; i.e., give safe passage to the non-combatants to leave. Russia refused, and said the Ukrainians had to lay down their arms and surrender first.”
...and what would the US do in a similar situation - let ISIS just walk out with their weapons?
“Yeah, they invaded Ukraine. Right.”
They (Biden and Zelensky) certainly created the conditions that forced the invasion.
“And if you being in your 70s isn’t too old for you to act like a Neocon cheerleader on this forum, it isn’t too old for you to get your wrinkly old azz to the front lines. Now scat you old Keyboard Warrior!”
Haven’t you even read what I’ve written? I said IT IS NOT OUR FIGHT! What part of that don’t you understand? Obviously, you are one of those basement dwellers who robotically post their talking points no matter the subject. It’s like you’re a robo caller, and you’re on an automatic message kick. Logic and reason are alien to you; you just reflexively respond. You’re a hoot!
“The Ukrainians know what happened at the Katyn Forest. They would be fools to surrender to the Russians.”
Just like the 1000 or so that surrendered a couple of weeks ago, I guess.
“...and what would the US do in a similar situation - let ISIS just walk out with their weapons?”
Can’t you even read? I said NOTHING about combatants walking out armed; I said that NON-combatants should be given safe passage to safety. The combatants remain, with their arms.
“NATO expansion is the cause.”
This goes back to Gorbachev - Ukraine joining NATO would be met with force.
The clowns in DC decided to see if Russia was bluffing.
They weren’t.
Look Gramps, you posted to me claiming I supported this war. I replied politely saying I didn’t, yet here you are continuing to be dazed and confused. If you want both parties at the peace table, congratulations for having learned something over the past seven decades of your life. If you want to feed the war machine while supporting Biden, take a hike.
“They (Biden and Zelensky) certainly created the conditions that forced the invasion.”
Ah, the old rapist’s excuse: “She asked for it! She wouldn’t give me her phone number! She deserved it.”
“Ah, the old rapist’s excuse: “She asked for it! She wouldn’t give me her phone number! She deserved it.””
If the woman goes out at night in Chicago with a big RAPE ME written on her shirt, then yes, she deserves it.
You’re right. After the collapse of the USSR, there was absolutely no reason for NATO to exist, never mind expand. Remember the Peace Dividend that Bush #41 and Thatcher told US we’d enjoy? Brother did that disappear into the hands of the MIC and their lobbyists.
“Look Gramps, you posted to me claiming I supported this war.”
You support Russia fighting this war, a war of aggression against a smaller and weaker neighbor. Typical bully tactic. What’s more, you know it, because you’ve said as much.
You are either very young, or you are hopelessly naïve.
“If the woman goes out at night in Chicago with a big RAPE ME written on her shirt, then yes, she deserves it.”
Well, now we all know what kind of man YOU are.
Hey Pant Load, that isn't what I support. I want peace, and if we had a functioning government responsible people in DeeCee would be on the horn to that crackpot Zelenskyy telling him to get off the stage or he'll be dragged off.
And the side that they picked is the side supported by Soros, Biden, the DNC, The Media, and all the usual suspects that have been lying to us and working against the USA for DECADES.
How do we know they are just not trying to protect their money-laundering operations...?
Why is Biden’s son, Pelosi’s son, Romney’s son, Colonel Flounder (who reported Trumps call to Ukraine) all involved with Ukraine?
I don’t have any idea what is going on, but I don’t suddenly trust The Media and George Soros...
“Well, now we all know what kind of man YOU are.”
I don’t live in Chicago.
“Why is Biden’s son, Pelosi’s son, Romney’s son, Colonel Flounder (who reported Trumps call to Ukraine) all involved with Ukraine?”
I was pointing that out at the start. Ukraine is a shithole country in the middle of nowhere, yet it kept being in the news, be it Hunter, Trump’s first impeachment, Neuland/McCain/Linda teaming up with Nazis there and God knows what else.
And yet some people here, who would normally smell a rat with Ukraine, are siding with them to no end. I’m convinced that they’ve got some connection there...nothing else makes any sense.
I don’t care, “little girl.” Children in Donbass were forced to live in bunkers for up to 8 months. They were also shot at and shelled everyday for 8 years. Just like Poroshenko promised in his 2015 speech to Ukrainians that “you will have jobs and they won’t. Your children will go to daycare and school and their children will live in cellars.” I wonder how many Ukrainians cheered when he said that? 🤬
Sorry, did I miss where Ukraine joined NATO?
It’s not Ukraine’s either. The ppl in the Donbass had 2 referendums in 2014 and voted overwhelmingly to be independent from Ukraine. Unlike Kosovo, the West ignored their votes, and then Azov was sent to the Donbass to squelch the uprising by shelling and shooting at them 24/7. Mariupol was the base of operations for Azov.
He said he wasn’t sending troops into the steel factory. He never said air strikes would cease.
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