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Two Russian generals killed near Kherson – Ukrainian ministry of defence
Guardian UK ^ | 4/23/2022 | Clea Skopeliti

Posted on 04/23/2022 8:45:02 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: refermech

And Putin retaliated today by hitting Odessa with submarine launched cruise missiles (because he’s running out of cruise missiles on the ships that haven’t been sunk.)


41 posted on 04/23/2022 9:12:03 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

42 posted on 04/23/2022 9:12:39 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: marktwain

“It appears to me, the Ukrainians have been on top in the intelligence war since the beginning.”

I cannot argue with that. Though, there are some here that will.

However there is one the the Ukrainians have been on top of and and are vastly superior in is the propaganda war. They are winning the hands down. And if you think about it, Propaganda Superiority just may be equal to a couple of Russian divisions.


43 posted on 04/23/2022 9:13:03 AM PDT by Tupelo (“Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*ck things up” (Barack Obama))
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To: butlerweave

RGLM

Russian
Generals
Lives
Matter


44 posted on 04/23/2022 9:13:11 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: buwaya

“If so it was an extremely stupid thing to do.
They must know their comms are monitored and that they are in range.”

The Ukrainians are exploiting a structural problem in the Russian military. The Russians have nothing like the take-charge seargents and lower officers that the West have. All orders come from the top down. This is because in authoritarian regimes the danger to the regime comes from the military itself. Therefore the military is trained to take orders from the top only. This is to prevent military takeovers. And, this explains why there are so many general level officers so close to the action. This is also why the Russians thought that taking Kiev and killing Zelinsky would cause the Ukrainians to collapse.


45 posted on 04/23/2022 9:13:38 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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To: Truthsearcher

And maybe more non-officers, too. I’ve heard up to 400+ total Russians killed in the attack.

That’s why Putin had a meltdown and sent million dollar cruise missiles to attack apartment buildings and their residents in Odessa today.


46 posted on 04/23/2022 9:14:36 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Wilhelm Tell

Most soldiers had nothing to do with that.


47 posted on 04/23/2022 9:17:42 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: marcusmaximus

They have got to get that guy. He is a barbarian


48 posted on 04/23/2022 9:18:27 AM PDT by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: MrKatykelly

“Being a General in Russia might be achieved a little too easily.”

At this rate they’ll be posting help wanted ads on Craigslist.


49 posted on 04/23/2022 9:21:04 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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50 posted on 04/23/2022 9:23:26 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: billorites
Russian generals seem to have the lifespan of CNN+.

You get my prize for line of the week.

Please send me $16,769.27 and I will have my Nigerian Prince friend send you your award of $14,749,864,001.26.

Please send cash.

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51 posted on 04/23/2022 9:23:48 AM PDT by USS Alaska (NUKE ALL MOOSELIMB TERRORISTS, NOW.)
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To: marktwain

“the Ukrainians have been on top in the intelligence war since the beginning. “

Being supplied by the US, EU, the Britsh, and (drum roll) Russians who think this misadventure is disaster for Russia as well as those who have relatives in the Ukraine.


52 posted on 04/23/2022 9:25:32 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: Tupelo
However there is one the the Ukrainians have been on top of and and are vastly superior in is the propaganda war. They are winning the hands down.

I agree.

53 posted on 04/23/2022 9:27:26 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: logi_cal869

Those dead generals were supposed to take Nikolaev and Odessa and secure the Ukrainian Black Sea coast for KGB Putin.

That’s why 3 of them were there.


54 posted on 04/23/2022 9:32:51 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Truthsearcher

Wow!!! That would be remarkable.


55 posted on 04/23/2022 9:34:05 AM PDT by SE Mom
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To: Gen.Blather

Even so, I’m sure they can do that without putting 50 officers on one airfield. There still are field telephones if nothing else.


56 posted on 04/23/2022 9:37:38 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: BiglyCommentary

All the dead generals we have seen are substantial gentlemen of a certain age. Much like US generals.


57 posted on 04/23/2022 9:39:49 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: JonPreston

Why I say to wait until the Russians confirm the losses. They have done so so far, it might take a few days or a few weeks.

Given that though, Ukrainian claims have proven accurate, and indeed understate the case. The Russians have announced many deaths of Lt.Colonels and Colonels the Ukrainians never claimed.


58 posted on 04/23/2022 9:43:18 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: marcusmaximus

Sounds like with the number of Russian generals reportedly killed that the Russian military has more generals than lieutenants. Either that, or Ukrainian propaganda promotes them from lieutenant to general just before they bite the bullet.


59 posted on 04/23/2022 9:44:00 AM PDT by chuckee
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This was big meeting.

Three generals.

Their jobs:

General 1: Defend Kherson and take more villages on right bank.

General 2: Take and hold Nikolaev (by May 9th)

General 3: Attack Odessa (by May 9th)

A disaster for Putin.


60 posted on 04/23/2022 9:55:35 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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