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To: marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; TalBlack; ..

Ukraine ping

Yet another instalment ($800m) of the $13b aid package passed by Congress on March 15, 2022. Ukraine to get a brigade’s worth (72 pieces) of M777 howitzers, along with perhaps a week’s worth of ammo (2000 rounds per howitzer), as well as brand new Switchblade-equivalent drones that have reportedly just emerged from development and testing.

For some perspective, Russian and Chinese equipment flows to North Vietnam during the Vietnam War (the final link is a Russian website):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_in_the_Vietnam_War#Confronting_U.S._escalation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Brezhnev#The_Vietnam_War
https://www.rbth.com/history/332396-how-soviets-fought-against-americans


2 posted on 04/21/2022 8:56:04 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Our inventory of all sorts of weapons must be depleted close to a dangerous level.


6 posted on 04/21/2022 9:39:58 PM PDT by laplata (")
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To: Zhang Fei
#2. Supply and support Ukraine, and they will take care of the rest.

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7 posted on 04/21/2022 9:53:07 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Zhang Fei; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; ...
Thanks Zhang Fei.

9 posted on 04/21/2022 10:06:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Non-revisionist weighted history doesn’t leave much room for offensive Russian offensive variance.

Russia has fought many wars against much more even adversarial opponents.

The political climate is amazingly in RU favor, even to the present.

RU is still circumnavigating energy export for profit in a big way, while simultaneously in a strong economic and defense agreement with Keetai. As well, the EU will not for a while yet be able to ween itself from profiting the Kremlin, and the US is almost seemingly taking orders from the same.

That being said, if it weren’t for Russian strategic and massive WMD arsenal power, I would almost suggest Moscow as a proxy battering ram which has penetrated the EU in a significant way, as it has the US.

However, at the moment they are working together, ad offer each other significant offensive “specialization”.

As such, almost regardless of the armament headed into UA, this is one of the best climates (on paper anyway), Russia has had to deal with in it’s many larger scale historical offensives.

What has already turned out to be a decisive and critical Trump “stop gap” with advanced infantry training and nimble anti-armor Javelin’s (matched by the Brits derivative), will already go down in history as having kept UA in this fight long enough to break the back of the 3-7 day UA capitulation and RU government takeover of UA. Other very important factors have been Weather, social media, and continued flow of weapons into UA.

In a sense, advanced Western ground systems have for now made it a deadly proposition for RU pilots to just fly all over UA. RU hasn’t yet established a RU no-fly zone. This is absolutely critical.

Now the US is beginning to send in even more near-robotic/launch-and-forget type weapon systems (”ghost drones”).

This has turned out to be a very dynamic war.

The greater scheme is still geopolitical hegemony of EU foreign and domestic economic and military policy. As well, there is truly only a window in time for Putin to pull it off.

He may well also find it necessary to even keep Israel from continued development of it’s Eastern Med energy, in order to keep to force the EU into submission.

Crazy times...


19 posted on 04/21/2022 11:31:54 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: Zhang Fei

Non-revisionist weighted history doesn’t leave much room for Russian offensive variance.

Russia has fought many wars against much more even adversarial opponents.

The political climate is amazingly in RU favor, even to the present.

RU is still circumnavigating energy export for profit in a big way, while simultaneously in a strong economic and defense agreement with Keetai. As well, the EU will not for a while yet be able to ween itself from profiting the Kremlin, and the US is almost seemingly taking orders from the same.

That being said, if it weren’t for Russian strategic and massive WMD arsenal power, I would almost suggest Moscow as a proxy battering ram which has penetrated the EU in a significant way, as it has the US.

However, at the moment they are working together, ad offer each other significant offensive “specialization”.

As such, almost regardless of the armament headed into UA, this is one of the best climates (on paper anyway), Russia has had to deal with in it’s many larger scale historical offensives.

What has already turned out to be a decisive and critical Trump “stop gap” with advanced infantry training and nimble anti-armor Javelin’s (matched by the Brits derivative), will already go down in history as having kept UA in this fight long enough to break the back of the 3-7 day UA capitulation and RU government takeover of UA. Other very important factors have been Weather, social media, and continued flow of weapons into UA.

In a sense, advanced Western ground systems have for now made it a deadly proposition for RU pilots to just fly all over UA. RU hasn’t yet established a RU no-fly zone. This is absolutely critical.

Now the US is beginning to send in even more near-robotic/launch-and-forget type weapon systems (”ghost drones”).

This has turned out to be a very dynamic war.

The greater scheme is still geopolitical hegemony of EU foreign and domestic economic and military policy. As well, there is truly only a window in time for Putin to pull it off.

He may well also find it necessary to even keep Israel from continued development of it’s Eastern Med energy, in order to keep to force the EU into submission.

Crazy times...


20 posted on 04/21/2022 11:32:41 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: Zhang Fei; Redleg Duke; Travis McGee

What is the life span of a towed howitzer on a modern battlefield?


25 posted on 04/22/2022 2:58:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Zhang Fei
I may have mentioned this to you before - but we killed a Chinese advisor in Vietnam about 20 miles southwest of Danang. He was riding in a sampan and our sniper shot him through the neck at about 300m and his body fell in the river.

We fished him out and the lieutenant got his silver ring - this guy was big, about 6 feet tall - and his ring slipped easily over my thumb!

So they had advisors working with them against us.

43 posted on 04/22/2022 7:05:36 AM PDT by Chainmail (99.36% of all statistics are made up on the spot)
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