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Putin hails liberation of Mariupol, calls off operation to storm steel plant
Tass ^ | April 21, 2022

Posted on 04/21/2022 11:01:51 AM PDT by Navy Patriot

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To: BenLurkin

The defenders are likely to be there for a long time.
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Holed up underground is not defending.It will not take much to bury it with his bunker busting bombs- no- he is just as curious as I as to who is hold up down there….as we used to called it, a high value target. Vlad’s tactics of “ siege” are meant to reduce casualties, but he needs to find out ( he probably already knows- not all Ukies support this war continuing).

Don’t get sucked into all of Ukraine is United, and will fight Ivan to the death. Remember, Ukraine was Russian till 1991 when the Soviet Union broke up and the Ukies declared their Independence. Be reminded, the Donbass declared their Independence in 2015 from Ukraine, but they were bombed for it….


81 posted on 04/21/2022 3:37:46 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

What’s with all the Vlad this and Vlad that?

Do you have some kind of man-crush going?


82 posted on 04/21/2022 3:56:25 PM PDT by skepsel ("A cat is more intelligent than people believe, and can be taught any crime", Mark Twain.)
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To: skepsel

What’s with all the Vlad this and Vlad that?
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I lived , worked and trained Ivan’s for three years, in Moscow. Vlad is as popular as Trump is, if you can’t figure out I am much older and wiser, been there, done that, carry on junior.
That said, don’t believe the western MSM war cheerleaders, non western aligned countries ( almost 70 percent of the worlds population ) can see thru this bad Vlad agenda.
I will add I have been in a war, ALL cries for war, war, war, by the western media makes me sick.


83 posted on 04/21/2022 4:10:01 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Red6

I understand your concern, however, I don’t want to make any guesses about chemical weapons or definitions of chemical weapons.


84 posted on 04/21/2022 4:10:01 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: delta7

Concur.


85 posted on 04/21/2022 4:12:20 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Robert357

Russia can destroy Ukrainian cities, why can’t Ukraine destroy Russian military bases within what was once a part of Ukraine, the Crimea.
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I will skip rebuttal to your first misconception , but answer your second. The Ukies are running on less than half a tank, they will be getting the fuel ( arms, ammo men) low lite soon. Why else the begger Zelensky is wanting arms, aircraft, men, ammo, no fly zones? Our Pentagon even states he is systematically targeting arms/ men inflow in WESTERN Ukraine with 50 pin point strikes a day.

Get used to it, Vlad is winning, not how the western armchair commandos think, he has unlimited resources. Get back with me in a month or two when his stated objectives are met:
1)No NATO admission.
2) denazification ( largely accomplished) , and
3) the Donbass provinces gaining their Independence from Ukraine. Read his war speech, he is moving slowly, but predictably.

Lastly, the EU and Ukrainians are starting to question Zelensky’s motives, war, war, war,more death and destruction for what? The west is hell bent on fighting bad Vlad down to the last Ukrainian. Think about that.


86 posted on 04/21/2022 4:34:20 PM PDT by delta7
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To: TheDandyMan
Consider the Russian attempts to seal off Grozny…Granted, this is a smaller area being surrounded, and the Russians have probably learned a thing or two since way back then...

That is certainly one credible way of looking at it.

However, as you put it "the Russians have probably learned a thing or two".

I Agree, and would like to add, Chechnya II is somewhat unique, I believe there was massive amounts of Russian anger toward Chechnya and Chechens over Belsan, and it had a bearing on the violence used and the results.

87 posted on 04/21/2022 4:42:12 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

I have no idea either.

Like you though, I believe the amount of evidence is not zero. I remain in wait for the Russians to show us the goods after whatshername, Vlad’s girl mouthpiece, said in front of G-d and everyone else that they had all the goods.

“Still waiting”.


88 posted on 04/21/2022 5:27:47 PM PDT by OKSooner (Fire Kevin McCarthy and his boyfriend Luntz, and fire Mitch too. Not next week, do it right now.)
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To: OKSooner
“Still waiting”

Yep, like we were with Durham, who we knew had more than Zero, and who has released a couple of updates containing facts Damning some in the FBI and Clinton Campaign,

but we're “Still waiting” ...

89 posted on 04/21/2022 5:37:51 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot
91-year-old Holocaust Survivor Perishes in Mariupol Basement
https://www.chabad.org/news/article_cdo/aid/5495941/jewish/91-year-old-Holocaust-Survivor-Perishes-in-Mariupol-Basement.htm

90 posted on 04/21/2022 5:40:22 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: rottweiller_inc

“Contractors”, “Volunteers”.

What if some of them turn out to be American “Advisors”?


91 posted on 04/21/2022 5:41:50 PM PDT by OKSooner (Fire Kevin McCarthy and his boyfriend Luntz, and fire Mitch too. Not next week, do it right now.)
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To: familyop
91-year-old Holocaust Survivor Perishes in Mariupol Basement

OK, I read the entire article.

Nowhere, in the Article does the author or anyone quoted or represented, blame Putin, Russians, Russia, Zelensky, Ukrainians, or Ukraine Particularly for Vanda's death.

Then I researched a bit and found the Russian Language page of Chabad News here:

Habad.ru

I searched Habad for the same Article, but got no results as I believe it would be titled differently for Russian readers.

The important point is Chabad/Habad is accepted for Jewish news and affairs in the West AND East and is not assigning blame.

As to the comments on the Article, only one of nineteen, mentions Putin and Russia as the parties to blame for this death.

My comment:

Vanda's death is a tragedy that can happen in War.

Vanda lived safely in her beloved Soviet Russian controlled city of Mariupol for decades, and in the Russian Speaking city of Mariupol Ukraine, with Russian neighbors, safely for another decade, and through political disagreement in her beloved Mariupol for the better part of a decade.

But she lived only three years after Zelensky ASSUMED the Presidency of Ukraine.

Let your name calling begin.

92 posted on 04/21/2022 6:49:40 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

Time for another false flag? Maybe Russians killing puppies?


93 posted on 04/21/2022 7:06:12 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally.The war is on Biden and Obama. )
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

I see a lot less of the usual “Ukraine Winning Against Inept Russians” articles lately, maybe they need another False Flag to warm up the presses.


94 posted on 04/21/2022 7:17:16 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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Good nite all, knocking off early today.


95 posted on 04/21/2022 7:20:07 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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