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The way I see it is we should follow the emBASEee strategee. Very AmericaFirsty.

The Budapest Agreement was an “accession” to a signed international United Nations, ratified nuclear nonproliferation treaty. The Ukes honored it and gave up those nukes. The Rukes violated it twice by invading twice, by happenstance it was when there were weak-kneed democrap presidents in office whom Vlad knew would not do anything about an invasion. And the USA has been looking for all kinds of ways to abrogate our responsibility in this treaty/agreement even though it points to disaster down the road for nuclear nonproliferation.

So when I say give back the Ukes their nukes, it is an acknowledgement that nukes are sovereignty. They gave up some nukes in exchange for “assurances” for borders and sovereignty. Since they are in an existential war, who are we to scold them for building nukes since that is what we did when we were in our existential war, and we are the ones who have betrayed them.

If the Ukes develop and deploy a suitcase nuke on a Russian city, it is because they got pushed into an existential corner. What we really should be doing is putting CONVENTIONAL forces into this fight in a way that genuinely “assures” borders and sovereignty for a country that did the right thing. After all, the Russian bear has been shown to be rather toothless compared to what most of us thought they would be in this fight, so the US would kick some serious @$$.

And if we send in American boots on the ground, we damned well better be negotiating American Land as the thing to fight for. Big, sweeping American EmBASEees along the border between Russia and Ukraine. A Lend Lease project. Americans fighting for American land. For generations we could use that land to build airports and fight terrorism in that region. I would call it the BBudapest AAgreement LLend LLease program because it would take BALLs.

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I have been advocating for several years a policy I call ‘embaseees’. Embassy + AirBase —> EmBASEeees. We go into a terrorist country, clear out their taliban equivalent, then withdraw to very large Embassies, perhaps 3 of them. Have them big enough to encompass a military airbase where we can use it for decades on end to conduct anti-terrorism operations. As long as the ‘host’ country aint killing Americans then we let them have self-sovereignty. Kind of like how we operated in the Phillipines for decades. We could even have an intermediate zone that we patrol but it would be autonomous. Let them have their taste of freedom. A referendum every 10 years to see how large the boundaries of the intermediate autonomous zone should be.

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1 posted on 04/21/2022 8:39:21 AM PDT by Kevmo
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To: Zhang Fei

for the Ukraine ping list


2 posted on 04/21/2022 8:40:14 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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“If the Ukes develop and deploy a suitcase nuke on a Russian city, it is because they got pushed into an existential corner.”

A suitcase nuke is at best a dirty bomb for a country with the technological capabilities of Ukraine. I doubt that Russia at this point possesses the requisite layers of technologies required to develop and produce such a device. They may have in the past but I doubt that they can do it now.

These devices are also exponentially more expensive to produce than a much heavier nuclear device.

In a nutshell it’s easier to achieve critical mass with a larger mass.


3 posted on 04/21/2022 8:49:59 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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Right now I expect only two countries in the world could produce reliable miniaturized nukes: The USA and Japan.

Maybe Taiwan could pull it off too. And that’s a distant maybe.


4 posted on 04/21/2022 8:51:50 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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In Lend Lease we got stuff in return. Basing rights etc. We get nothing from Ukraine except and outstretched palm, bribing half of DC, sex trafficking, and undermining Trump.


14 posted on 04/21/2022 10:05:07 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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It’s hard to find a worse idea than giving nazi dominated, totally corrupt, Eastern Euro emotion driven, historic trauma nurturing Ukraine, nuclear weapons.

Those idiots would use it. I don’t really care if they get nuked, but they will drag us in.


16 posted on 04/21/2022 10:08:02 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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WWII U.S. 'Lend Lease' policy was enacted in March on 41, at which time the U.S. was technically neutral. In December of 41 we entered the war. I do not was to see us follow a similar pattern today.

The Ukraine and Russia are two of the most corrupt nations on earth. If anything, the Ukraine is a European problem. Europe has shown that it's not serious about defending Ukraine as it continues to do business with Russian and import their commodities. The only interest we have in Ukraine is the quid pro quo corruption our government officials and their Oligarchs have in common. IMHO, we are fools if we allow ourselves to be dragged into a war with Russia. Sadly, I believe Biden, democrats and corrupt RINOs will intentionally get us into a shooting war with Russia, that could include nukes, to deflect from his miserable record and dismal approval rating.

24 posted on 04/21/2022 10:27:52 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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RUSSIAN INVASION OF UKRAINE - [DAY 57] (21 April 2022)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5xPe4RPAWg


36 posted on 04/21/2022 3:58:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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