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To: MHGinTN

Are you really sure there is such a thing as free will?

After all we had no control over what we were born with, our physical make up, our brains/mind, the environment we were born into, etc. Aren’t all our decisions and actions a direct function of what we were born with (and which we had no control over) and use that to react to or shape the outside environment?

Seems like we have about as much free will as anything we as humans create, like cars, computers, houses...

I think we’re more like a complex set of a bunch of sensors with setpoints (like thermostats) which when reached cause certain processes in our brain to activate. And the action we take are those that we THINK will lead us to a happier state - the pursuit of happiness.

BTW, I’m sorry to hear about your fading eyesight - must be discouraging. As for typos, I haven’t seen any. :)


121 posted on 04/20/2022 10:46:53 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48
You are promoting a variation on the blame game ... you are not responsible because ultimately God allowed or made you do it.

All have free will to choose to believe God their creator or not. You have wso far chosen to not. The part you may be lacking on is the way we were constructed in the beginning. we had a body and a behavior mechanism called soul of mind emtoions and will, and The Creatotr added a third level of being, spirit. The design is perfect ... for allowing each individual to choose. In the great plan our progenittor, Adam chose to not let the spirit run the soul which runs the body. As descendants from Adam we have inherited that flaw of not having a spirit in use directing the soul. BUT GOD had always planned the solution to that flaw, but based the solution upon the individual choosing to accept the cure. We are not the puppets you would like us to be. And now I am gong to give you the second half of the alternate view.

God created satan and allowed him top choose to rebel, to choose his self aggrandizement. When satan chose top rebel the chess match was on. If God played the game as you are demanding He play it, then God would be always doing to counter what satan chooses. That would make which player the more dominant? A fallen angel cannot be the source for God''s actions lest God no longer be the sovereign. But the Soverign wants those He loves to have free choice, so we do, aleit we are constantly seeking to counter satan's moves.

You want God to go on the offensive, which would remove satan's free will consequences. That is a nice puppet show but not what God planned from the beginning for humankind. You might consider that satan was created before Adam, and he had a very lofty position in the pantheon of created beings.

125 posted on 04/20/2022 1:53:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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