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Zelenskky: Russian offensive in eastern Ukraine has begun
Yahoo! ^ | 18/4/22 | Yuras Karamanau

Posted on 04/18/2022 2:11:14 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

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To: RayChuang88
“the Russians may be tempted to drop a 1 kT tactical nuke into the center of Mariupol.”

Given their general “performance”, russists would quite likely blow themselves up.

21 posted on 04/18/2022 3:07:46 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: miserare

What do you mean ?


22 posted on 04/18/2022 3:08:59 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: RayChuang88

Impossible to know, since we can’t see the battlefield, but I would think CS gas would be effective against underground bunkers. It always works on TV.


23 posted on 04/18/2022 3:11:07 PM PDT by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: RayChuang88

No need for a damn nuke left in Mariupol.


24 posted on 04/18/2022 3:18:20 PM PDT by dforest (We have to put a stop to this now.)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Si! Ukraine is winning. Bigtime. This is what MSM tells us.

So, Virginia, if the Times says it is true, it must be so.

(with apologies to all the foreign speakers and writers on FR who do not understand downhome American humor. I suggest you take a crash course on the works of Mark Twain. Then follow up with some Mencken, Erma Bombeck, and Dorothy Parker. With a little Ogden Nash and Dave Barry on the side.)

So many Ninotchkas, so little time!


25 posted on 04/18/2022 3:19:37 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: EEGator; All
The US is under no obligation to start a global nuclear war over a tactical nuke in Mariupol.

I also don’t think that will happen.

Correct.

But, once you start using tactical nukes (or the threat thereof) to gain territory, where does it stop?

I think it only stops when every country has their own tactical nukes to retaliate with.

26 posted on 04/18/2022 3:27:52 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

It would be a very dangerous situation, so I’m not making light of it. But to start a full on launch ‘em all nuke war is far, far worse. I would try to use spooks to get someone high up in Russia to whack the nut.


27 posted on 04/18/2022 3:29:40 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: SteveH

On a fast timescale...


28 posted on 04/18/2022 3:31:08 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: miserare
"Si! Ukraine is winning. Bigtime. This is what MSM tells us."

Neocon lies !!1 Only 55 days, +20k KIAs and the flagship sunk to get 10% of territory of several times weaker country. Rus*ia strong !!! Rus*ia victorious !!!!111


29 posted on 04/18/2022 3:36:37 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

www.Riafan.ru has better real time maps and detailed coverage, news articles.


30 posted on 04/18/2022 3:36:39 PM PDT by delta7
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To: alternatives?
What about Konigsberg?

That would require NATO, more likely to trigger WWIII than lopping off a few fishing villages in the Far East.

31 posted on 04/18/2022 3:40:59 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Grzegorz 246

Eastern /Southern Ukraine is in rubble. Many weapons entry points along the western border are in ruins.The Ukies Air Force, radar installations, ammo depots destroyed, military equipment depleted, etc… It will take a decade with US taxpayers money to rebuild ( minus 10 percent for Joe).

Doesn’t sound like winning to me.


32 posted on 04/18/2022 3:42:55 PM PDT by delta7
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To: larryjohnson

“.. I don’t care..”

but others do


33 posted on 04/18/2022 3:47:15 PM PDT by elpadre (W)
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To: delta7

Isn’t that site in Russian?


34 posted on 04/18/2022 3:48:52 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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To: Eleutheria5
President Biden finds out from a source close to him.


35 posted on 04/18/2022 4:00:42 PM PDT by McGruff (Not our circus, not our monkeys.)
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To: McGruff

The look on his face - “I didn’t know rabbits could talk!”


36 posted on 04/18/2022 4:03:29 PM PDT by nesnah (Infringe - act so as to limit or undermine [something]; encroach on)
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To: marktwain
I think it only stops when every country has their own tactical nukes to retaliate with.

Or the Ukrainians grab one from the Russian stocks in Crimea or from the wreck of the Moskva.

37 posted on 04/18/2022 4:06:44 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: chajin

When borders start shifting, now is the time to “fix” more than one.


38 posted on 04/18/2022 4:09:53 PM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: EEGator
The US is under no obligation to start a global nuclear war over a tactical nuke in Mariupol.

FWIW, here's an interesting presentation by Col Sam Gardner (USAF RET) who taught strategy at the National War College, Naval War College and Air War College. It's a possible use of Russian tactical nukes in Ukraine, and how to respond.


39 posted on 04/18/2022 4:19:21 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Drew68

It wasn’t until Sept. 1945 that Americans understood nukes cause fallout. They just thought nukes were a big scary bomb at the time.


40 posted on 04/18/2022 4:23:25 PM PDT by struggle
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