[SpeedyInTexas]

[SpeedyInTexas]

[Houserino]

Nice to see, burn!

[DannyTN]

Is it possible to paint “Russian Warship, Go ___ yourselves” on it when it’s under water?

[palmer]

There are two water canons and at least one is aimed in the wrong direction. Looks abandoned.

[skimbell]

[Lazamataz]

Depending on the side you choose to believe, the ship was either hit by 2x R-360 "Neptun" ASMs, or suffered a catastrophic ammunition fire. You decide.

[roving]

I served aboard a destroyer, and we never allowed our ship to look like that. It was haze gray and underway all the time.

[M Kehoe]

In the fwiw department, there is a very high possibility that two nuclear weapons sunk with that ship.

5.56mm

[marcusmaximus]

[NWFree]

It was probably hit by 2 neptunes that set off the ammo 💥

[rellic]

I was in SAC when I was 18 yrs old.
I would have happily and actually did work to make sure
we could kill every Commie on Earth.
I’m a little older now and realize that the real enemy is a government un-checked.
Our Government, Russian,Chinese, N Korean, et al, are the enemy.

I’m glad I’m not 18 anymore.

[ScottinVA]

Burn, baby, burn!

[DCBryan1]

Here is a picture of it being towed by a Ukranian farmer:

[MercyFlush]

Oh, yeah. That ship was killed and there was no saving it. Any word as to the crew who might have been rescued or did Putin have them all executed for hurting his feelings?

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

I’ll take both causes for $2,OOO Rubles, Alexis!

[Paul R.]

For reference:

[MHGinTN]

Looks more like an Oops than an Oh Shit!

[Widget Jr]

#1, #48. Looks like a amidships hit, under the port side AK-630 anti-missile guns (is it me, or does this cake have a lot of icing on it?). The list to port and the charring on the hull indicates flooding on that side and most likely a waterline hit. From what I can see zooming in, the all the P-500/P-1000 missile launchers are intact although they are obscured by smoke. A few meters forward and the Neptunes would have hit under aft most P-500/P-1000 missile launcher(☹️).

From what I can find, it looks like the Moskva might have been 3 to 3.5 miles from shore, around Snake Island when she was hit. Her systems were forty years old and the status of her sensors and fire control system upgrades are unknown. My guess is it is likely the ship's radar could not easily detect a low flying missile over land, and when it crossed the beach, the crew had at little as 20 to 15 to respond.

Using her as a command ship out of necessity is one thing, using her inshore like that was really risky. Land based artillery or artillery rockets could have taken a shot at her, and the Russian navy is not known for excellence in damage control.

Some more interesting pieces of the puzzle. The Moskva was built by Ukraine while Ukraine was exploited by in the USSR. They know the class's strengths and weaknesses as well as the Russians. It has been reported the ship's radar can see only in the forward 180* has a blind spot aft (I can not confirm this). HI Sutton reported that the ship was moving in a pattern for the last month. Since 2014, when Russia "annexed" Crimea, Ukraine has been preparing for this conflict. Finally, the Neptune missile was first introduced in 2015, so Russia knew Ukraine had a few of them. Given what Ukraine has done so far, the Russia navy knew enough to be cautious close to shore.

Just like the Russian army and air force, the Russian navy made a lot of mistakes and Ukraine was not being stupid as much as being smart.

[Shery]

Doesn’t look like the pictures of the Moskva. Looks like a different ship altogether. But, I’m no expert.