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Russian Navy Confirms Severe Damage to Black Sea Cruiser Moskva, Crew Abandoned Ship
https://news.usni.org ^ | April 13, 2022 8:35 PM | By: Heather Mongilio

Posted on 04/14/2022 6:02:09 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: jdsteel

Maybe plausible, maybe not. The targeting, the tactics, and perhaps even supervision of the launch very easily could have been us. Remember the “British” PBY Catalina that found the Bismark. It was being flown by a US Navy aviator who was there to “train” the British crews. Total sheep dip, he was operational and they sent a Brit along to make it “British”. But America was not in the war yet.

Guess we’ll see how angry they are, and what proof they have or don’t have. Really about anything could still be possible.
Could be Ukes with a homegrown missile, could be Brits “training” Ukes on a Harpoon. Could be us helping the Ukes. OR, it could even be a poorly maintained 40 year old ship running at high tempo with a barely trained crew had a devastating accident. And even if that was the case, the Russians might decide to use that as an excise to escalate.

Anything is still possible. Spooky stuff.


61 posted on 04/14/2022 8:13:51 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: hflynn
Russian is doubling down not backing down. Face it, we are all living in extremely dangerous times.

I don’t think people realize, Russia can’t afford to lose this war under any circumstance. It will be the greatest humiliation they’ve ever faced. Defeat for Russia means their nation carved up and divided under western stewardship and everyone in a position of government or military leadership swinging from gallows. Before they surrender, they will use every tool in their arsenal. Every tool.

62 posted on 04/14/2022 8:19:09 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Drew68

Well modern day in any case.

Tsushima Straits Battle
Russian losses

5,045 dead
803 injured
6,016 captured
6 battleships sunk
1 coastal battleship sunk
14 other ships sunk
2 battleships captured
2 coastal battleships captured
1 destroyer captured
6 ships disarmed
(126,792 tons sunk)

Oh, and only time an entire fleet surrendered in the field


63 posted on 04/14/2022 8:29:21 AM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Having been directly involved with all sorts of weapons tests I can attest that they sometimes go badly. The purpose of the test is to find out what does not work and fix it. If it fails in a test and you fix the problem, that’s ideal. While it’s great that the tests all work, it’s not a bad thing to have a few failures. As for the aircraft carriers (bunker fuel, by-the-way) we lose planes too. I can think of two recent crashes in the Pacific of F-35’s. As for other crashes and bad occurrences, they happen regularly. Although, the rate at which they happen to the US Navy has been decreasing steadily.

Russia knows their aircraft carrier has little utility and the reasons they keep it around are entirely political. Probably similar to the reasons we are keeping the Independence class littoral combat ships even though they are of little practical value. Politics.

Just because a weapon, say, a broadsword, is obsolete does not mean that anyone wants to be hit by it.


64 posted on 04/14/2022 8:52:56 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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To: Paladin2

I would guess that’s the cover from the launch tube.🤔


65 posted on 04/14/2022 9:08:08 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: rbmillerjr

You forgot “there’s no need to panic”.😁


66 posted on 04/14/2022 9:12:37 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: DesertRhino

“ Anything is still possible. Spooky stuff.”

That’s the best thing that can be said about this entire sordid affair!


67 posted on 04/14/2022 9:34:27 AM PDT by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew i)
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To: BiteYourSelf

Wouldn’t they want to recover the tube after a few launches?


68 posted on 04/14/2022 10:14:16 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DesertRhino

🤦


69 posted on 04/14/2022 10:18:10 AM PDT by hawkaw
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To: Paladin2

They probably have replacement covers.🤔


70 posted on 04/14/2022 10:42:43 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Every time Ivan goes to sea something breaks.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4055089/posts


71 posted on 04/14/2022 1:11:12 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (Let's go Brandon)
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To: Red Badger

I hear he was not on board and may have been arrested. The ship’s captain was aboard and was KIA.


72 posted on 04/15/2022 8:14:07 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: Midwesterner53

The Admiral may be court-martialed...............


73 posted on 04/15/2022 8:15:29 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: BBQToadRibs2; Red Badger
Russians trying to hide that the Uke's grabbed it:


74 posted on 04/17/2022 2:03:42 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Delete FB, TWTR, GOOGL, AMZN, YHOO, Gmail/chrome. Use Gab, Brave + DDG, VPN, Freerepublic )
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