Posted on 04/14/2022 6:02:09 AM PDT by Red Badger
Or the sinking of the Argentine cruiser General Belgrano in 1982.
...or Vladamir gets neutered by his oligarchs.
A lot of them have had their toys embargoed.
General Belgrano, HMS Sheffield, the South Korean destroyer, and operation preying mantis losses were just as drastic.
The response should worry sane people. Especially if it seems like NATO did this in reality and called it a Ukrainian action. This could get nasty.
“no good way for Russia to spin this.”
All the little Putinbots are desperately trying, though.
Exactly. Global wars have started with smaller incidents. I fear that Russia is being exposed--at least their military is--and I don't want to test their capabilities if they're backed too far into a corner. Their nuclear capabilities may be similarly inept, but I don't want a few of them launched as a test.
Russia needs an opportunity to back down and de-escalate with Ukraine.
The era of the surface combatant is over. Anything located can be sunk anywhere by a technologically sophisticated opponent. Many young sailors will die horrible deaths before today’s “battleship admirals” realize the new reality. The Ukraine war and the Armenian/Azerbagani conflict has already demonstrated that armor is equally outdated and cannot survive on a modern battlefield. The silicon chip has changed everything.
I wonder if the Black Sea Fleet commander was on board at the time of the attack?
With EMPs going off all over the globe, the silicon chip will be short lived......................
...or Vladamir gets neutered by his oligarchs. A lot of them have had their toys embargoed.
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only 20 or so are sanctioned out of the 110 oligarchs
They probably won’t release that info for a while...............
Well-his statement didn’t qualify it that way (or at all)
And though many here dismiss it, the war has been prosecuted in a careful manner to avoid civilian casualties. That is what we are calling incompetence. For example Kiev has pretty much been untouched, the rail lines to Kiev haven’t been attacked. NATO convoys havent been attacked. The power is on. The Russians haven’t even cut off the gas.
They may just decide to go heavy.
This could get bad. Our government is determined to take down the Russian government and install a WEF Zekinsky type there. Nobody is pushing for deescalation... nobody.
A look at the pic tells us that a hit among those missile tubes on the main deck (and that is about 30% of the length of the ship) is probably going to cause catastrophic damage to the ship.
Not a bad gig
Everything is going as planned.
Putin is playing 4D chess.
All is well.
“A passport to somewhere else, presumably where war isnt likely to show up.”
You build a military having in mind a mission set. The Russian military was built to inflict maximum damage on a first-rate peer or superior military. Just like using multimillion dollar supersonic jets are not the weapon you need to fight a rag-tag bunch of insurgents armed with AK-47’s, the Russian navy has almost zero use against Ukraine. The Moskova was designed to attack fleet carriers, not pound ground targets with artillery. It’s not garbage, even if it probably has more rust than paint. It’s a dangerous weapon that is being inappropriately used. Discounting it and other navy weapons because they are being badly used would be a mistake.
"Russian says it will tow the flagship of its Black Sea fleet back to port after extinguishing a fire on board - flames that Ukraine claims to have ignited with anti-ship missiles."
Conditional statement leaving one to believe that the fire had not yet been out...what fire fighting capabilities do the much smaller Russian warships have? Would seem not to be prudent to bring them along side until all cooks off. Hell, hope the Ukraine picks up the 7-10 split if they do.
Sat photos show is already docked....
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