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To: ought-six

Fine man you get killed. Get your family and loved ones killed also. Just can you figure out a way to do it without getting me and mine killed ?


135 posted on 04/13/2022 11:07:46 AM PDT by libertarian66
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To: libertarian66

“Fine man you get killed. Get your family and loved ones killed also. Just can you figure out a way to do it without getting me and mine killed?”

That’s your responsibility.

Fight, and you might win. Surrender, and you have already lost.

Ever hear of a guy named Winston Churchill? Smart guy. I especially like this quote:

“If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.” — Winston Churchill


149 posted on 04/13/2022 11:19:26 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: libertarian66

“Fine man you get killed. Get your family and loved ones killed also. Just can you figure out a way to do it without getting me and mine killed?”

Also, it depends on how much you love your family. And how much you trust your conquerors.

Historically, if you surrendered with your family, you’d either be killed outright — likely through torture — or worked to death as a slave. Your family? Historically, they would have been better off dead.

Historically, very few nations have been reserved in their treatment of helpless prisoners; and the more primitive the conquering peoples, the more brutal captives are treated.

In the American West it was well known on the frontier that whites taken captive by Indians were horrifically treated, and that meant men, women, and children. Captive women usually fared the worst. In 1866 in Wyoming, a US Army garrison and their families were besieged by an overwhelming number of Sioux, Cheyenne, and Arapaho. It was believed the garrison’s fall was imminent so the post commander ordered that all women and children were to be moved to the post magazine, where all the gun powder was stored. Orders were given that if the walls of the post were breached, the magazine was to be blown up, with the women and children in it, to prevent their capture.

In 1857 in India, during the Great Mutiny, a British garrison at Cawnpore surrendered to the besieging mutineers. After holding out for three weeks, the commanding officer of the British garrison surrendered, after having been given assurance the garrison and all their families would be given safe passage down the river to safety. No sooner had they begun to climb into the boats then the mutineers opened fire. After all the British soldiers and men had been killed, the surviving women and children were brought to a house and courtyard, where they were kept under appalling conditions. But, that was too tame for the mutineers, and there ensured a sadistic slaughter of the innocents that stunned the world. It was so heinous, that the mutineers had an “Oh, shit!” moment, and they fled.

A British relief force, including a regiment of stoic Highlanders, got there too late. But the horror they found at Cawnpore filled them with a burning rage, and as they pursued the guilty mutineers they held nothing back in their desire for vengeance.

So, YOU decide what’s best for you and your family.


173 posted on 04/13/2022 11:51:21 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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