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Russia Says Ukraine War Meant to End U.S. Quest for World 'Domination'
MSN ^ | 4.11.2022 | Natalie Colarossi

Posted on 04/11/2022 1:46:21 PM PDT by libh8er

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If the end game is that oil removes being pegged to the dollar because of this, regardless of what happens on the battlefield, it would be the biggest win against the US than most people could remotely understand.


41 posted on 04/11/2022 2:22:32 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: delta7

America says, “We want to be deceived!”. Deceive us!


42 posted on 04/11/2022 2:26:03 PM PDT by sport
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To: jimwatx
WWIII began with
Operation Masterdom
in Vietnam
on September 13, 1945

We've lost almost 100,000 KIA
in the battles of that continuing war.

It isn't, and never was "Cold."

43 posted on 04/11/2022 2:27:12 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again.)
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To: Kevmo

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/03/26/vladimir-putin-a-bismarck-for-the-modern-age/


44 posted on 04/11/2022 2:31:30 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: ought-six

Well said.


45 posted on 04/11/2022 2:32:41 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: proust

Putin has an 80+% popularity. Russians have a 10% flat tax and are happy.

The regime change that is needed is in Washington.


46 posted on 04/11/2022 2:33:01 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: libh8er

Russia can’t have Ukraine making it’s own choices.


47 posted on 04/11/2022 2:33:01 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: ASA Vet

Yeah if you count proxy wars you can say it began a long time ago, my metric however would be when the US/NATO directly engages militarily with Russia and/or China. And right now that looks like it could be on the agenda,


48 posted on 04/11/2022 2:33:48 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: jimwatx

You’re not seeing the big picture in all this, what he’s saying is true.
***Presumably your next sentence establishes how this is true?

Unless and until either side blinks this is definitely headed towards WW3.
***Nope, your next sentence did NOT establish how it was true, it just blithely continued to assert that it was true. And then you asserted even more nonsense on top of it. Double dose of unsound reasoning. The place to start is by looking at which side INVADED the other. If those flimsy excuses are okay now, then we should be invading Mehico tomorrow.


49 posted on 04/11/2022 2:35:52 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: PGR88; libh8er

And I will say this. I mistook Putin’s (surface level) friendly relationship with Trump as a sign that his KGB days were well in his past. That he was like any modern European leader with a western European mindset (minus the social stuff) who just wanted what was right for Russia. I was so wrong. A lot of people did not truly understand Putin - including Trump himself who said he was surprised by Putin’s move to actually invade. He thought Putin was just posturing for negotiations. Putin’s hatred of the “west”, his term for America, for having lost the cold war has been simmering for 30+ years.


50 posted on 04/11/2022 2:35:54 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: sport

America says, “We want to be deceived!”. Deceive us
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Exactly. Americans have a short infantile memory. Remember the Covid Vax hoax? Ongoing..…the jabs will give you immunity, two weeks to flatten the curve, shut down the economy,…now they go back to MSM fake news like a dog returning to eat it’s own vomit.

Americans have been had, again, lapping up Corrupted Joe’s Ukie war and MSM’s agenda.


51 posted on 04/11/2022 2:37:16 PM PDT by delta7
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To: PGR88

- and they will lead it.
***I suppose you mean this:

President Biden: There’s Going To Be A New World Order, It Hasn’t Happened In A While And America Has To Lead It
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4048685/posts


52 posted on 04/11/2022 2:38:33 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: PGR88

Ronald Reagan had a personal friendship with Gorbachev and Sheverdnadze. It led to arms control agreements, the stand-down of the Red-Army in E.Europe, and ultimately, the collapse of the Soviet Union.
***That wasn’t what led to the stand-down. It was Reagan’s refusal to continue appeasing the obvious @$$#0/e country.


53 posted on 04/11/2022 2:40:57 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: PGR88

What vision do the likes of Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, Joe Biden and Antony Blinken have?
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The Great Reset, the Green New Deal, gay marriage, new one world order, LGBQ “ rights”, abortion, oil abolition, energy dependence, gun control, cash less digital society, guaranteed income, BLM, open borders….for God’s sake, wake up America. Everything Senile Joe supports is designed to destroy America.


54 posted on 04/11/2022 2:41:52 PM PDT by delta7
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To: nascarnation

Saving the high value liquid petroleum for the military.
***That could be the case. Got any articles postulating this? Links? Entriguing thesis.


55 posted on 04/11/2022 2:42:16 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: delta7

Putin isn’t trying to stop the “New World Order”, he’s trying to control his role in it, and Russia’s place in the pecking order. He wants to control Europe’s energy supply, and be above the USA and EU in geopolitical power.

Russia is trying to change the narrative, shifting the blame to America because it is becoming unpopular at home. Blaming America was as predictable as hearing “death to America” from an Iranian Mullah.


56 posted on 04/11/2022 2:44:01 PM PDT by ETCM
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Russia is trying to change the narrative, shifting the blame to America because it is becoming unpopular at home.
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Huh? I worked in Moscow for quite awhile, the vast majority love Vlad. Like Trump, he is a strong leader. Does what he says. Looks out for his people.

Keep drinking the MSM ( and Joe’s) kool aid.


57 posted on 04/11/2022 2:48:07 PM PDT by delta7
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To: libh8er

A lot of people did not truly understand Putin - including Trump himself who said he was surprised by Putin’s move to actually invade.
***Interestingly, obambam said kind of the same thing. They both claim that pootypoot “changed”. I think it’s a copout from both of them.


58 posted on 04/11/2022 2:53:17 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: ETCM

He wants to control Europe’s energy supply, and be above the USA and EU in geopolitical power.
***Yup. This war is about OIL. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4050958/posts

The Russians weren’t even interested in western Ukraine until oil was found there. Their interest is simply in raping that country. Russia gets 60% of its revenues from oil exports. Europe gets 40% of their oil from Russia.

In 2012 massive oil and gas reserves were found in Crimea. Crimea signed a $10 billion exploration contracts with Shell and Chevron to develop the new found oil and gas fields. These oil and gas products would compete in Europe with Russia’s oil and gas, reducing Russia’s oil revenues, which we recall amount to 60% of their total GDP. Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, cancelling the contracts with Shell and Chevron.

But Ukraine still had massive reserves in, you guessed it, Donetsk and Luhansk, and other areas East of the Dnieper River. In 2019, Energy Secretary Rick Perry visited Ukraine, and soon after Ukraine awarded exploration contracts to a consortium of U.S. oil companies. Again, these oil reserves would compete in Europe with Russian oil, so Putin is invading Ukraine to shut down this latest attempt to extract Ukrainian oil and sell it in competition with Russian oil.

This explanation makes more sense to me than the “Putin feels threatened by NATO expansion” excuses for the invasion.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4044221/posts?page=1#1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CmdSzVFSKc

If the Ukes allow some small region in the west to be its own republic, but the OIL belongs to Ukraine, do ya think Pootypoot would allow that? Nope.


59 posted on 04/11/2022 2:55:36 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: PGR88

Mitt Romney believes in Magic Underwear....


60 posted on 04/11/2022 3:09:00 PM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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