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'Very difficult to talk': Visibly emotional Zelensky shocked by Bucha horror
Daily Mail ^ | 4/4/22 | VZ

Posted on 04/06/2022 12:30:48 AM PDT by Eleutheria5

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To: tlozo
ALL the surviving villagers are saying the Russian soldiers took the men and shot them

Yes. Strong stuff.

Except that if the Satellite photos are false, then it is clear which side really did shoot those people. The same people waiting off-camera as these interviews are made.

21 posted on 04/06/2022 4:12:10 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: ganeemead

Still spreading that debunked video?


22 posted on 04/06/2022 4:16:09 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: agere_contra
For now: we should wait for the real picture in Bucha to come into focus. I almost can’t believe what I’ve posted above about the satellite movements

So ALL the surviving Bucha residents are ALL lying?

'I recognized him by his shoes': Bucha resident describes finding her husband's body

Tetyana Volodymyrivna recounted her harrowing ordeal at the hands of Russian troops who occupied the apartment building she shared with her husband in Bucha, Ukraine.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp-video/mmvo136917061933

Hanna Herega, a Bucha resident, said she witnessed a man being killed by Russian troops. “He went to get some wood when all of a sudden they [Russians] started shooting. They hit him a bit above the heel, crushing the bone, and he fell down,” Herega told Al Jazeera.

“The shooter shouted: ‘Don’t scream or I will shoot!’ and they turned away. Then they shot off his left leg completely, with the boot. Then they shot him all over this side [on the chest.] And another shot went slightly below the temple. It was a controlled shot to the head,” she added.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/4/witness-describes-bucha-killings

Our neighbours went to put their rubbish out around 5:00 pm. They were two men and a woman. One of the men had served in the army. They didn't come back.

"They were found by the women in our building when they went to get wood in the courtyard of a house. The corpses were lying in blood on the ground with bullet marks," Olena said.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/ukraine-russia-crisis-russian-soldiers-fired-on-man-going-to-supermarket-bucha-eye-witness-2864149

23 posted on 04/06/2022 4:26:03 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: mewzilla

I find this trend very disturbing. Instead of understanding world events and personalities, an alarming number of Freepers are using the leftard playbook: “whom do we demonize and attack.” I’m sorry, but Zelensky is not a tool of the Deep State as we know it. He booted out a member of what passes for “deep state” in Ukraine, which hasn’t yet been around long enough to even have a genuine deep state. The real deep state was booted out of Kiev (I will not say Kyiv) in 2014 and flew straight to Moscow, his true master. For a political novice, he could have been worse. Trump is a political novice, and did a whole lot better. VZ is doing great as a war leader. What he would have done had the Russians not invaded is a moot point.

I think most of you are thrown off by the fact that some evil people are playing Ukraine lip service while doing as little as they can to help Ukraine. Nanshy, Soros, Brandon, Brandeau, Chucky the psychotic toy, et al., shout “Slava Ukraina” heartily, then slow walk any help until it’s all but useless. They are not on his side. I’d venture that Musk decidedly and sincerely is. The “Deep State” in the US doesn’t GAGS about the Ukraine. If anything, they view VZ as another Trump or Reagan, both of whom were entertainers and who cared deeply about their country, which the Deep State was hell bent to betray, and who brought about major changes that they hated. VZ might do the same, so they hate him. But he’s the flavor of the month, so they have to pretend to support him. The Polish MIGs were the proof of the pudding.


24 posted on 04/06/2022 4:26:37 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (January 6, worst assault on democracy since the Reichstag Fire)
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To: agere_contra
Except that if the Satellite photos are false

Okay, so prove they are false.

25 posted on 04/06/2022 4:27:06 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: Eleutheria5

Would you care to tell me why, given its institutional ownership, we should automatically trust anything coming out of Maxar?

And doesn’t the fact that none of these pics and vid are coming from any official government source give you pause?

I’m for trust but verify.

Everything.

Always.

Because our conspiracy theories have become spoilers.


26 posted on 04/06/2022 4:31:11 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: tlozo

Prove to us that they are reliable.


27 posted on 04/06/2022 4:32:20 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: tlozo
Okay, so prove they are false.

Please check the link in my post 12.

Warning: the link goes to Southfront - the Forbidden Site.

28 posted on 04/06/2022 4:33:04 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: mewzilla
Prove to us that they are reliable.

They are corroborated by survivors. These are eyewitnesses of the killings, who saw their husbands or sons executed by Russian soldiers.

29 posted on 04/06/2022 4:35:22 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: Eleutheria5

From other sources I read that the ‘maternity ward’ was abandoned years ago and was being used as a military meeting place now.

WHO KNOWS WHAT TO BELIEVE in this mess any more.

I just know THE MEDIA and those on the same side as Soros and Biden and The Democrats have lied to us for years, and I am not about to start trusting them for the truth now.

Especially when there is VIDEO of the ‘dead bodies’ moving


30 posted on 04/06/2022 4:36:38 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: tlozo
eyewitnesses of the killings

And if the Satellite photos are false, then the killers are still in Bucha.

The killers are quite possibly conducting the interviews, or writing the transcript (if the interview is not on camera).

Remember: the Ukraineans tortured that poor woman in Mariupol to death. They can certainly threaten a witness or compel their silence.

31 posted on 04/06/2022 4:40:59 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Mr. K

Especially when there is VIDEO of the ‘dead bodies’ moving


That is a Putinist fairy tale that has been proven false.

This really shouldn’t be difficult. One country invovoled here is Russia and one is Not Russia. Russia can GTFO out of Not Russia and this will be over.


32 posted on 04/06/2022 4:44:04 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: agere_contra
And if the Satellite photos are false, then the killers are still in Bucha.

And if the moon landings were faked. Making accusations is easy, show proof and if there is none, stop the bs.

33 posted on 04/06/2022 4:44:30 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: tlozo
Making accusations is easy, show proof

For some reason this is taking a long time

Please read my post 12 and follow the link.

I almost don't believe it myself.

If these satellite photos were indeed taken on the 1st April and NOT on the 19th March - and it's so easy to check because satellites maintain stable orbits, and solar declination is also easily tracked - then the fraudsters have got to know they would be easily exposed.

It would be such an extraordinary error.

34 posted on 04/06/2022 4:49:29 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra
And if the Satellite photos are false, then the killers are still in Bucha.

The Bucha survivors are talking to western media, and they are ALL saying the same thing, Russian soldiers killed their relatives.

Ira Gavriluk holds her cat as she walks next to the corpses of her husband and her brother, who were killed in Buch


35 posted on 04/06/2022 4:50:51 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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And if the killers are still in Bucha, and she says the wrong thing to the media then ... they won't stop with her cat.
36 posted on 04/06/2022 4:52:22 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra
And if the killers are still in Bucha, and she says the wrong thing to the media then ... they won't stop with her cat.

So EVERYONE in Bucha is afraid to tell the truth. Even the old people are lying when they say their son or husband was killed by the Russians. Okay

37 posted on 04/06/2022 4:55:39 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: tlozo

um... yeah

Who would walk right past their dead husband and brother?

Aren’t they trying to bury them?

“Gosh there’s my husband right there”

I dont know what is going on there, but I know I am not about to start trusting OUR MEDIA


38 posted on 04/06/2022 4:56:18 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: Mr. K
I dont know what is going on there, but I know I am not about to start trusting OUR MEDIA

WHOLE town of Bucha are ALL lying and the satellite images are manipulated. Or drunken Russian conscripts were out of control.

39 posted on 04/06/2022 4:59:57 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: tlozo

It is a logical impossibility to prove a negative.
Asking for it proves your ignorance.
I don’t know about these satellit photos but there is ACTUAL VIDEO of the ‘corpses’ moving... specfially one moves his arm as the truck with the video cam rolls by (presumably to make sure his arms does not get run over) and another caught in the rear-view mirror getting up.

If they are going to fake one video they are going to fake others.

Once again- I don’t know what is going on in Ukraine but I know I am not about to start trusting THE MEDIA who have been proven to have lied to us for years now.


40 posted on 04/06/2022 5:00:12 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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