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Is the Bucha Massacre A Ukrainian False Flag?
Helleninscope ^ | 5 April 22 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 04/05/2022 4:27:48 PM PDT by delta7

Bucha is the latest shiny object that the Western cats are chasing mindlessly without taking time to think critically about what Russia is actually doing on the ground. Russia’s invasion on February 24 was not a classic military attack. What do I mean? If Russia was intent on conquering and subjugating Ukraine without regard to the fate of Ukrainian civilians it would have launched massive missile and airstrikes on all major cities, bridges, airfields, railroads and communication systems. It did not do that. Not my opinion.

The first phase of Russia’s special military operation consisted of the following:

Moved troops and armored columns into Ukraine from three directions–North, East and South. Deployed only 200,000 troops while maintaining key reserves inside Russia along the Ukrainian border against a Ukrainian Army estimated to number 600,000. Avoided attacking communication systems leaving cell phone and internet largely intact. Took control of the largest nuclear power plant in Europe–Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant–but kept the electricity flowing. Supported offensives by the Luhansk and Donetsk People’s Republics against Ukrainian forces in the East. Gradually surrounded Kiev from the North but did not fight any key battles to occupy outlying cities. Destroyed Ukrainian ground radar, key airfields and military bases in Western Ukraine with precision missiles. Sealed the southern coast of Ukraine with the Russian Navy. Launched an assault on Mariupol, a key Ukrainian port in the South, and systematically annihilated the neo-Nazi AZOV battalion (Russia now controls all of Mariupol except for the steel plant and continues to methodically eliminate the remaining defenders). The immediate effect of this operation divided and froze the Ukrainian Army in four geographical regions-North, South, East and West. During the first two weeks the Ukrainians and NATO did not know where Russia’s major blow would fall. Russia’s initial success in eliminating Ukraine’s Air Force as a combat effective unit and the destruction of key military bases and fuel depots made it impossible for Ukraine to dispatch reinforcements to Donbas and Mariupol.

During the past week Russia has effected a tactical redeployment of forces that originally surrounded Kiev. It is reported that those units moved west and are likely to be used as block force that will be part of a broader effort to defeat the bulk of the Ukraine Army now virtually surrounded in the eastern part of the Donbas.

With its limited ability to move troops or resupply frontline forces, Ukraine is relying on propaganda and information warfare to try to weaken Russia and entice NATO to join the fray. Here is a good summary of these efforts courtesy of Nighvision:

For instance, when the Russian POW torture video came out, it was Ukraine that cried “fake” until days later all western ‘authorities’ were forced to admit it was real. When the ‘maternity hospital’ false flag in Mariupol occurred, Kyiv supporters blamed Russia and once again Russia was the one proven right and vindicated when the pregnant girl at the center of it herself released an interview completely refuting Ukrainian lies, and stating that not only did Ukrainian soldiers turn the hospital into a barracks but stole the precious food from pregnant women and then shelled the hospital themselves. When Ukraine claimed Russia bombed an ‘innocent’ civilian mall, yet the very next moment the Russian MOD released detailed videos showing precisely how Ukrop forces positioned mobile artillery in the parking garage of the said ‘mall’. When Ukrops claimed Russia tried to blow up the Zaporizhzhia plant, yet security footage showed that as a Russian security force arrived, it was fired upon by an RPG from Ukrop positions in one of the administrative buildings of the plant. When the famed American journalist was killed in Irpin right outside Kiev a month ago, and all Ukrainian supporters shouted Russia, but the entire incident was quickly swept under the rug when the journalist’s own friend/companion in an interview stated they were fired upon by Ukrop troops at a Ukrop checkpoint miles away from the nearest Russian forces.


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To: ought-six

“Add to that Zelensky encouraging civilians to act as illegal combatants and this was bound to happen.”

But, are they illegal combatants? Defending one’s hearth and home and family is not dependent on being a member of a nation’s formal military. However, once they pick up a weapon and start fighting they are fair game.
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Having served in our military ( 82nd) I am well versed on “ the rules of war”, you want to fight? Great, put on a uniform and grab your weapons. Arming a rag tag force ( mafia, civilians, criminals, etc) with military weapons and putting them in the battle field makes them guerillas, Fair game, big mistake.

Zelensky was an idiot, most those weapons will end up on the black market, and/or be used against the surviving government or EU, or sold off to the highest bidder.


61 posted on 04/05/2022 5:29:16 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Mariner

Re: Realpolitik, you assume dictators are practical. Some — such as Tito — were or are practical; others, such as Mussolini and Hitler and Saddam Hussein, were and are decidedly NOT practical.


62 posted on 04/05/2022 5:32:44 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: AAABEST

“All hail Putin! We love that magnificent bastard.”

I think that’s what you meant to post.


63 posted on 04/05/2022 5:33:26 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: datura

You were in East Germany behind the wall?


64 posted on 04/05/2022 5:33:54 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: delta7

Indications are that yes, its yet another false flag. The Ukes are losing. Their main army in the Donbas is now surrounded and cut off.

Expect a flurry of false flags as they try desperately to get others involved to bail them out. Expect the globalists to do all they can to amplify these false flags. Their whole agenda is teetering on the brink. They just lost several elections badly, Russia has bounced back from sanctions and a key client state is losing the war they provoked.


65 posted on 04/05/2022 5:34:01 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: GreyFriar

I figure that the sections of FSB, like the KGB before it, is following the troops and getting rid of the politically undesirable Ukrainians. The KGB squads did this in WWII just as the SS troops dedicated to insuring that ‘untermenschen’ were disposed of after the combat troops pushed forward.
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Zelensky has been killing “ traitors” of Ukraine also. A member of Ukraine’s first negotiating team was shot in the head on the street by the Ukrainian security forces- admitted by themselves. No trial, just declared a traitor to Ukraine then murdered in the street.


66 posted on 04/05/2022 5:34:22 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Lurker

Yet, hypocritically, there are those here who toe the line of those lies almost word for word.

Maddening.


67 posted on 04/05/2022 5:34:57 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: datura

I find it comical that during the 90’s & 2000s that conservatives would rip liberals for not recognizing that there is evil in the world and that there’s right and there is wrong. Fast forward to today and some conservatives are bending over backwards in saying both Russia and Ukraine are the bad guys. It’s sickening.


68 posted on 04/05/2022 5:35:13 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: delta7

“Having served in our military ( 82nd) I am well versed on “ the rules of war””

Having served in our military (USAF) I am well-versed on the rules of war, as well. Want to try again?


69 posted on 04/05/2022 5:35:25 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Monterrosa-24

That is a complete and criminal lie and you know it.
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Don’t argue with me, argue with the UN.


70 posted on 04/05/2022 5:35:41 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Lurker
Everyone is lying. Including our government.

Damn' right. For whatever stupid reason, I was watching the news out of the corner of my eye while at a board meeting tonight. It sure appeared to me that the "news" media is doing all they can to peddle going to war against Russia. There was no shortage of showing dead bodies in Ukraine today on the news. No "graphic pictures" warning like they used to do whenever a disturbing picture or video was shown, they (CBS specifically) just kept showing picture after picture of dead civilian bodies in Ukraine.

Feels like WW3 is coming. They're pushing it hard, and it's being done to cover Biden's lying corrupt and incompetent dumbass.

71 posted on 04/05/2022 5:37:11 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: tlozo

“Sure thats why Putin’s director of the Foreign Intelligence Service of Russia looks terrified and tongue tied with Putin.”

Completely irrelevant to my assertion.

A realist surrounded by realists.


72 posted on 04/05/2022 5:37:14 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ought-six

Yet, the one thing we CAN be sure of is that Putin invaded a sovereign nation.

Without that invasion, none of the subsequent things happen to question and argue about.


73 posted on 04/05/2022 5:37:54 PM PDT by CrazyCatChick (DEATH POKE!)
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To: CrazyCatChick

I don’t think Russia has gone all out.
Putin has measured his advances and retreats, as in the case of Kiev, knowing full well what the tactics and cappabilities of the opposing army and it’s benefactors have in their arsenal.
Having fought and measured the West since WW-2, Russia’s myriad of advanced capabilities in weapons systems and technology did not just run out their expiration date by sitting iddly by through a ‘stagnant’ cold war.
I know for a fact, and here, some will roast me for being vague and not presenting evidence, but I DO know the Russians are ahead of us in ‘some’ underwater warfare systems.
I believe Putin has played his cards well,considering what brought him to this point.
A. Putin is more sly and more of a strategist ​than Biden will ever think to be.
B. Believe all these stories coming out of the war zone at your own peril.
When truth finally comes out and people are let down, because they were so sure and so emotionally invested into the narrative, those people I feel sorry for.
I pray for them because I know later in their life they will hate themselves, or should anyway, for having been so utterly duped not only of themselves but also for paying the narrative forward at the detriment of innocents in their lives.


74 posted on 04/05/2022 5:38:17 PM PDT by Rainwave ("Work out your OWN salvation with fear and trembling")
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To: CrazyCatChick

“Yet, the one thing we CAN be sure of is that Putin invaded a sovereign nation. Without that invasion, none of the subsequent things happen to question and argue about.”

Absolutely.


75 posted on 04/05/2022 5:38:53 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Rusty0604
Do you have absolute proof that was work of the Russians? I didn’t think so.

Sure the satellite pictures show the bodies March 19 lying on the streets. The bodies were there, seen by reporters. ALL the surviving villagers are saying the Russian soldiers took the men and shot them, some in front of their wives. You want more proof. F___ off.

76 posted on 04/05/2022 5:39:01 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: delta7

The town’s name “Bucha” sounds like “Butcher” raises my eybrows.

Its like the Pharma companies marketing products with catchy names like “Eliquis” and so on.


77 posted on 04/05/2022 5:39:24 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: ought-six

I’m making the assertion/suggestion this particular dictator is practical.


78 posted on 04/05/2022 5:39:55 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: delta7

Desperate people do desperate things.


79 posted on 04/05/2022 5:40:05 PM PDT by McGruff (A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is still putting on it's shoes.)
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To: FLT-bird

“The Ukes are losing. Their main army in the Donbas is now surrounded and cut off.”

bwaha! Where did you read that? Southfront?


80 posted on 04/05/2022 5:40:36 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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