Is the Bucha Massacre A Ukrainian False Flag?

Helleninscope ^ | 5 April 22 | Larry Johnson

[delta7]

Bucha is the latest shiny object that the Western cats are chasing mindlessly without taking time to think critically about what Russia is actually doing on the ground. Russia’s invasion on February 24 was not a classic military attack. What do I mean? If Russia was intent on conquering and subjugating Ukraine without regard to the fate of Ukrainian civilians it would have launched massive missile and airstrikes on all major cities, bridges, airfields, railroads and communication systems. It did not do that. Not my opinion.

The first phase of Russia’s special military operation consisted of the following:

Moved troops and armored columns into Ukraine from three directions–North, East and South. Deployed only 200,000 troops while maintaining key reserves inside Russia along the Ukrainian border against a Ukrainian Army estimated to number 600,000. Avoided attacking communication systems leaving cell phone and internet largely intact. Took control of the largest nuclear power plant in Europe–Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant–but kept the electricity flowing. Supported offensives by the Luhansk and Donetsk People’s Republics against Ukrainian forces in the East. Gradually surrounded Kiev from the North but did not fight any key battles to occupy outlying cities. Destroyed Ukrainian ground radar, key airfields and military bases in Western Ukraine with precision missiles. Sealed the southern coast of Ukraine with the Russian Navy. Launched an assault on Mariupol, a key Ukrainian port in the South, and systematically annihilated the neo-Nazi AZOV battalion (Russia now controls all of Mariupol except for the steel plant and continues to methodically eliminate the remaining defenders). The immediate effect of this operation divided and froze the Ukrainian Army in four geographical regions-North, South, East and West. During the first two weeks the Ukrainians and NATO did not know where Russia’s major blow would fall. Russia’s initial success in eliminating Ukraine’s Air Force as a combat effective unit and the destruction of key military bases and fuel depots made it impossible for Ukraine to dispatch reinforcements to Donbas and Mariupol.

During the past week Russia has effected a tactical redeployment of forces that originally surrounded Kiev. It is reported that those units moved west and are likely to be used as block force that will be part of a broader effort to defeat the bulk of the Ukraine Army now virtually surrounded in the eastern part of the Donbas.

With its limited ability to move troops or resupply frontline forces, Ukraine is relying on propaganda and information warfare to try to weaken Russia and entice NATO to join the fray. Here is a good summary of these efforts courtesy of Nighvision:

For instance, when the Russian POW torture video came out, it was Ukraine that cried “fake” until days later all western ‘authorities’ were forced to admit it was real. When the ‘maternity hospital’ false flag in Mariupol occurred, Kyiv supporters blamed Russia and once again Russia was the one proven right and vindicated when the pregnant girl at the center of it herself released an interview completely refuting Ukrainian lies, and stating that not only did Ukrainian soldiers turn the hospital into a barracks but stole the precious food from pregnant women and then shelled the hospital themselves. When Ukraine claimed Russia bombed an ‘innocent’ civilian mall, yet the very next moment the Russian MOD released detailed videos showing precisely how Ukrop forces positioned mobile artillery in the parking garage of the said ‘mall’. When Ukrops claimed Russia tried to blow up the Zaporizhzhia plant, yet security footage showed that as a Russian security force arrived, it was fired upon by an RPG from Ukrop positions in one of the administrative buildings of the plant. When the famed American journalist was killed in Irpin right outside Kiev a month ago, and all Ukrainian supporters shouted Russia, but the entire incident was quickly swept under the rug when the journalist’s own friend/companion in an interview stated they were fired upon by Ukrop troops at a Ukrop checkpoint miles away from the nearest Russian forces.

[Houserino]

That’s the simple thing you guys can’t answer. Why invade?

Was it cause OMG BIONUKENAZIS?

You’ll get involved with personal attacks and crap, but won’t dare take on the real issue here.

[lonestar67]

I actually still believe in the people of Russia.

I do not think they will keep Putin.

I think many russian troops do not even want to carry out this mission.

I think that is a much larger problem than generally understood.

I also think it may even prove strategic to turn over the chechen fighters for war crimes. I never understood why the Russians sought to appease them anyway.

[Houserino]

The big problem is that ever since Peter the Great, Russia has been a failed state. They sucked right after, through the USSR period, and suck now.

All they got, the only thing, is nukes. Otherwise they’d be down there with yemen as a menace or interest. Lower than north korea.

[Houserino]

Mariner and the rest of these russian-lovers won’t respond to anything. You could drop them in Ukraine and get shelled at and they’d still worship putin.

[Mariner]

“Why invade?”

That’s easy.

Ukraine belongs to Russia. It has always belonged to Russia.

They will not let anyone else have it.

And they will fight existential war against any and everyone to ensure no “outside” military forces are placed there.

It’s their Texas.

But stupid people think the fact that Russia has over 1 million soldiers buried there means somebody else can have it.

That’s why they’re stupid.

[Houserino]

Could you justify invading Lithuania, or Estonia by saying they always owned it?

I’m glad you came out and admitted your beliefs, that takes some guts.

[SandwicheGuy]

What if, if, Delta7 has posted the Truth. Would the Truth still be Kremlin talking points? I would posit he posted a viewpoint vs. talking points. But what the Hell, any stick sim 9 so 6 when you want to best a dog. But you should know three the Kremlin is doing the Lord’s work by killing a whole heap of corrupt officials, like Hunter Biden’s bosses. And doing it quite well by all accounts. Òur own corrupt media is not painting an accurate picture.

[SandwicheGuy]

What if, if, Delta7 has posted the Truth. Would the Truth still be Kremlin talking points? I would posit he posted a viewpoint vs. talking points. But what the Hell, any stick sim 9 so 6 when you want to best a dog. But you should know three the Kremlin is doing the Lord’s work by killing a whole heap of corrupt officials, like Hunter Biden’s bosses. And doing it quite well by all accounts. Òur own corrupt media is not painting an accurate picture.

[Does so]

encouraging civilians to act as illegal combatants and this was bound to happen.”

They’re eliminating those 7-AM drummers...

[BlackbirdSST]

The satellite pictures show the bodies March 19 lying on the streets.

Why would you continue that lie?

[tlozo]

Why would you continue that lie?

Okay, and ALL the survivors are ALL lying when they say Russian soldiers killed their relatives?

[BlackbirdSST]

It’s not only evil, but he’s gotta be a paid troll.

You've been a troll since the day you signed up. I take it you're too stupid to get paid for it.

[BlackbirdSST]

Okay, and ALL the survivors are ALL lying when they say Russian soldiers killed their relatives?

Not in the history of the world have eye witnesses lied. I notice you didn't defend the lie that is your satellite image proof. You attempt to pass that off as a matter of fact when it has been pointed out to you that not one single 'red blocked' part of that image shows a body. Not one single body.

[tlozo]

Not in the history of the world have eye witnesses lied.

We are talking about ALL the survivors, saying the Russian soldiers killed their relatives. This and the bodies are the main proof. You cannot disregard ALL the eyewitnesses because "Not in the history of the world have eye witnesses lied."

I notice you didn't defend the lie that is your satellite image proof. You attempt to pass that off as a matter of fact when it has been pointed out to you that not one single 'red blocked' part of that image shows a body. Not one single body.

Satellite image I saw, shows bodies on March 19.

Refuting Moscow’s claim, satellite images show bodies were in Bucha for weeks

https://www.timesofisrael.com/refuting-moscows-claim-satellite-images-show-bodies-were-in-bucha-for-weeks/

[Brilliant]

Use your brain. They would not murder their own people just to make the Russians look bad.

[BlackbirdSST]

There is not a single identifiable body in that image. Not a single one.

[mac_truck]

They would not murder their own people just to make the Russians look bad.

No...but hardliners might murder people if they thought they were collaberating with the enemy...even if that collaboration simply meant not resisting their occupation or even just accepting food and water from them.

The term reprisals comes to mind and its very difficult to judge the mindset of people living in areas that are being contested...fear is a powerful motivator, as is hunger.

Use your brain.

Just did...now its your turn.

[DuncanWaring]

Use your own brain.

There are plenty of those who run our government (officially or unofficially) who want most of us dead, just because we challenge their authority.

What would make Ukraine different?

[tlozo]

Use your brain. They would not murder their own people just to make the Russians look bad.

Putin defenders are also saying that ALL the survivors are ALL lying, when they say Russian soldiers killed their relatives. Its just this massive conspiracy /s

[Brilliant]

When was the last time we had a government sponsored mass murder of civilians in this country? And that does not even touch on the question of motive. The “false flag” suggestion implies that the only reason they did it was to make Russia look bad. That is wholly implausible. Nothing like that has ever happened in the US. I am not sure it has ever happened anywhere. If you want to win a war, you don’t murder your own people. Hitler proved that. And even Hitler did not murder them so he could blame us.