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Is the Bucha Massacre A Ukrainian False Flag?
Helleninscope ^ | 5 April 22 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 04/05/2022 4:27:48 PM PDT by delta7

Bucha is the latest shiny object that the Western cats are chasing mindlessly without taking time to think critically about what Russia is actually doing on the ground. Russia’s invasion on February 24 was not a classic military attack. What do I mean? If Russia was intent on conquering and subjugating Ukraine without regard to the fate of Ukrainian civilians it would have launched massive missile and airstrikes on all major cities, bridges, airfields, railroads and communication systems. It did not do that. Not my opinion.

The first phase of Russia’s special military operation consisted of the following:

Moved troops and armored columns into Ukraine from three directions–North, East and South. Deployed only 200,000 troops while maintaining key reserves inside Russia along the Ukrainian border against a Ukrainian Army estimated to number 600,000. Avoided attacking communication systems leaving cell phone and internet largely intact. Took control of the largest nuclear power plant in Europe–Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant–but kept the electricity flowing. Supported offensives by the Luhansk and Donetsk People’s Republics against Ukrainian forces in the East. Gradually surrounded Kiev from the North but did not fight any key battles to occupy outlying cities. Destroyed Ukrainian ground radar, key airfields and military bases in Western Ukraine with precision missiles. Sealed the southern coast of Ukraine with the Russian Navy. Launched an assault on Mariupol, a key Ukrainian port in the South, and systematically annihilated the neo-Nazi AZOV battalion (Russia now controls all of Mariupol except for the steel plant and continues to methodically eliminate the remaining defenders). The immediate effect of this operation divided and froze the Ukrainian Army in four geographical regions-North, South, East and West. During the first two weeks the Ukrainians and NATO did not know where Russia’s major blow would fall. Russia’s initial success in eliminating Ukraine’s Air Force as a combat effective unit and the destruction of key military bases and fuel depots made it impossible for Ukraine to dispatch reinforcements to Donbas and Mariupol.

During the past week Russia has effected a tactical redeployment of forces that originally surrounded Kiev. It is reported that those units moved west and are likely to be used as block force that will be part of a broader effort to defeat the bulk of the Ukraine Army now virtually surrounded in the eastern part of the Donbas.

With its limited ability to move troops or resupply frontline forces, Ukraine is relying on propaganda and information warfare to try to weaken Russia and entice NATO to join the fray. Here is a good summary of these efforts courtesy of Nighvision:

For instance, when the Russian POW torture video came out, it was Ukraine that cried “fake” until days later all western ‘authorities’ were forced to admit it was real. When the ‘maternity hospital’ false flag in Mariupol occurred, Kyiv supporters blamed Russia and once again Russia was the one proven right and vindicated when the pregnant girl at the center of it herself released an interview completely refuting Ukrainian lies, and stating that not only did Ukrainian soldiers turn the hospital into a barracks but stole the precious food from pregnant women and then shelled the hospital themselves. When Ukraine claimed Russia bombed an ‘innocent’ civilian mall, yet the very next moment the Russian MOD released detailed videos showing precisely how Ukrop forces positioned mobile artillery in the parking garage of the said ‘mall’. When Ukrops claimed Russia tried to blow up the Zaporizhzhia plant, yet security footage showed that as a Russian security force arrived, it was fired upon by an RPG from Ukrop positions in one of the administrative buildings of the plant. When the famed American journalist was killed in Irpin right outside Kiev a month ago, and all Ukrainian supporters shouted Russia, but the entire incident was quickly swept under the rug when the journalist’s own friend/companion in an interview stated they were fired upon by Ukrop troops at a Ukrop checkpoint miles away from the nearest Russian forces.


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To: ought-six

Lol, that’s one thing he said that I can completely agree with.


141 posted on 04/05/2022 6:44:36 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: FreshPrince

Its not an “absurd” claim and I’ve already told you that it can be found via a simple search engine search. You refuse to do so.


142 posted on 04/05/2022 6:46:57 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: tlozo

“April 5 (Reuters) - Satellite images taken weeks ago of the town of Bucha in Ukraine show bodies of civilians on a street, a private U.S. company said, undercutting the Russian government’s claims that Ukrainian forces caused the deaths or that the scene was staged.”

What i don’t get is, why did they wait until four days after the Russians left and weeks after they say the pictures were taken, to release them? And I don’t see on yhe pictures how one can tell the date they were taken?


143 posted on 04/05/2022 6:48:08 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: moehoward
What strikes me is the phoney shock and outrage when we see civilians being killed during war when a few weeks ago we saw lots of Ukrainian video featuring civilians lining up to get their brand new AKs.

Simple, these are victims, people taken from their homes and shot by the Russian soldiers. They were non-combatants without any weapons.

144 posted on 04/05/2022 6:48:21 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: FLT-bird

I told u I did and found nothing. It’s a looney claim by u since you can’t back it up.


145 posted on 04/05/2022 6:48:52 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: kiryandil

For the most part they’re too stupid to know what’s bad and what’s good.

They are damn lucky to not have to assert their beliefs on the battlefield. Or, anywhere else where real men tread.


146 posted on 04/05/2022 6:48:53 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

I think you’re a 12 yr old girl.


147 posted on 04/05/2022 6:49:35 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: FreshPrince

That’s funny, I found it quite easily. You might try actually looking.

Or we could go back and forth another 20 times. You decide.


148 posted on 04/05/2022 6:56:39 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

You make the claim, u back it up. Otherwise just bs.


149 posted on 04/05/2022 6:57:55 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: kiryandil

Time to ditch YT for Rumble (at least until Musk acquires a bunch of shares and changes the dismal YT culture).


150 posted on 04/05/2022 7:06:55 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: FreshPrince

U do a simple google search. If you’re afraid then you’re afraid.


151 posted on 04/05/2022 7:07:32 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Mariner

You skipped the 2nd part of my post which is if you’re going to make numbers up, say 10x like you did, might as well go to 100x or more.


152 posted on 04/05/2022 7:07:43 PM PDT by Houserino
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To: Houserino; Mariner

Mighty bold talk for a 5-month-old FR n00b, mouthing off to class of 98...


153 posted on 04/05/2022 7:10:23 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: FLT-bird
He might need a FreshHuggies from the fear of googlin'...  winking face face with tears of joy face with tears of joy
154 posted on 04/05/2022 7:15:34 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Uncle Lonny

How were the Kadyrovites different from the rest of the Russian soldiers?
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Kadyrov is an Islamic Chechnyan. I was in Moscow when Vlad leveled Grozny and Chechnya. Remember Beslan, The Belshoi? Well, Vlad not only won the Chechnyan war, ( by leveling the radical Islamic strongholds- much like the Ukrainian Neo Nazi strongholds), he was able in twenty years to get the Chechnyans to spill their blood for him in Ukraine!

Don’t underestimate Vlad, like Trump, he does what he says, and the people love him. Hard for “westerners” to understand the Russian mind.


155 posted on 04/05/2022 7:21:51 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

5) When the famed American journalist was killed in Irpin right outside Kiev a month ago, and all Ukrainian supporters shouted Russia, but the entire incident was quickly swept under the rug when the journalist’s own friend/companion in an interview stated they were fired upon by Ukrop troops at a Ukrop checkpoint miles away from the nearest Russian forces

What you are saying simply is not true. Juan Arrendo’s interview from last week is easy to find online and he is clearly asked if he knew whether he was shot by Russians or Ukrainians and he states he could not be sure but he believed they were Russians. They were beyond a Ukrainian checkpoint heading into Russian occupied territory when they were ambushed by soldiers on the side of the road. Given where he states they were ambushed it is more likely than not that they were shot by Russians and by his own words, that is what he believes.


156 posted on 04/05/2022 7:39:59 PM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: delta7

I will say I was amazed when Vlad employed Islamic Chechnyans, they are not a very nice bunch….hard to say but the word is Kadarov “ volunteered” his battalions to route out the Ukrainian Neo Nazi’s. Do notice they were employed primarily in the Neo Nazi strongholds, Marioupol for one. “ War crimes” ( strange phrase as all war is a crime) accusations doesn’t surprise me where the Islamic Chechnyan’s are actively fighting.


157 posted on 04/05/2022 7:43:29 PM PDT by delta7
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To: kiryandil

Age 1 or 100, an idiot is an idiot


158 posted on 04/05/2022 7:44:38 PM PDT by Houserino
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To: Manly Warrior

In 2014, a Color Revolution in Ukraine illegally overthrew a Democratically Elected President. 3 Oblasts (States) immediately declared independence and/or affinity with Russia. Since that time the current Ukrainian Government has waged war against the breakaway Republics. Russia has formally entered the conflict


159 posted on 04/05/2022 7:53:24 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Houserino
Age 1 or 100, an idiot is an idiot

I agree.

You ARE an idiot.

160 posted on 04/05/2022 7:57:15 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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