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Study finds higher homicide risk in homes with handguns
AP ^ | 4/4/2022 | MIKE STOBBE

Posted on 04/04/2022 4:49:10 PM PDT by Houserino

NEW YORK (AP) — Most U.S. gun owners say they own firearms to protect themselves and their loved ones, surveys show. But a study published Monday suggests people who live with handgun owners are shot to death at a higher rate than those who don’t have such weapons at home.

“We found zero evidence of any kind of protective effects” from living in a home with a handgun, said David Studdert, a Stanford University researcher who was the lead author of the Annals of Internal Medicine study.

The study has several shortcomings. For example, the researchers said they could not determine which victims were killed by the handgun owners or with the in-home weapons. They couldn’t account for illegal guns and looked only at handguns, not rifles or other firearms.

The dataset also was limited to registered voters in California who were 21 and older. It’s not clear that the findings are generalizable to the whole state, let alone to the rest of the country, the authors acknowledged.

But some outside experts said the work was well done, important and the largest research of its kind.

“I would call this a landmark study,” said Cassandra Crifasi, a gun violence policy researcher at Johns Hopkins University. “This contributes to our understanding of the potential causal relationship between guns in the home and homicides,” she said.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2nd; 2ndamendment; banglist; fakenews; guncontrol; gungrabbers; guns; rkba; satanforduniversity; secondamendment
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To: Houserino
Well, F'n DUH!

When I shoot a home invader or burglar (to death.. ain't happening any other way) it will be a Homicide. A Justifiable Homicide, but a Homicide none the less.

61 posted on 04/04/2022 5:53:36 PM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: Houserino

“We found zero evidence of any kind of protective effects” from living in a home with a handgun, said David Studdert, a Stanford University researcher who was the lead author of the Annals of Internal Medicine study.”

I respectively say Bull Muffins.


62 posted on 04/04/2022 5:54:41 PM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: Houserino
https://rockinst.org/issue-areas/gun-violence/

They've made another faux science out of their argument. The Rockefeller organizations do that pretty well to get all the changes they want.

63 posted on 04/04/2022 6:01:38 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman (The Gates of hell shall not prevail against you)
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To: packagingguy

My rifles keep those rogue pistols in line.


64 posted on 04/04/2022 6:08:03 PM PDT by GreyHoundSailor (LGBTQ - Let's Get Brandon To Quit)
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To: tomsbartoo

Yep time to take the .45 out from under my pillow. It might attack me.


65 posted on 04/04/2022 6:13:38 PM PDT by oldasrocks
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To: Houserino

They’re falling back to the 90s scare propaganda again.


66 posted on 04/04/2022 6:19:34 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: Houserino

Hey! What numbers do you like? We can and will change them to suit the situation.

Remember when they tried to pass off that guns in home was the biggest cause of death for children? Well it was a lie.

They just have to keep lying to sell their sh*t whenever possible.


67 posted on 04/04/2022 6:39:20 PM PDT by dirtymac ( Now Is The Time For All Good Men To ComeTo The Aid Of Their Country! NOW)
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I have never been mistaken for being a member of Mensa, with that said, wouldn’t a home with guns always have a higher percentage of the gun being used than a home with NO guns?


68 posted on 04/04/2022 6:45:31 PM PDT by deek69
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To: Houserino
The dataset also was limited to registered voters in California who were 21 and older. It’s not clear that the findings are generalizable to the whole state, let alone to the rest of the country, the authors acknowledged.

The authors should soak their heads in sand.

69 posted on 04/04/2022 6:46:26 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Good One!!!


70 posted on 04/04/2022 6:58:52 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Did you check for notches, on the butt stock or barrel?


71 posted on 04/04/2022 6:59:51 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

They’re a sweet collector’s item, depending upon the model. Which one do you have?


72 posted on 04/04/2022 7:00:57 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Houserino
I suspect higher statistical manipulation risk, however...

...Calling Dr. Lott...

...Calling Dr. Lott!

73 posted on 04/04/2022 7:01:03 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston Churchill)
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To: packagingguy

Those rascally Brownings Hi-Pos! Gotta watch them all the time.


74 posted on 04/04/2022 7:02:31 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: carriage_hill

Nothing cool like a 442.

2001 Intrigue which I bought new and really like.


75 posted on 04/04/2022 7:03:10 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: IYAS9YAS

If it wasn’t your gun at the time it was killing Nazis and commies, then Ted Kennedy’s car arguably reclaims the spot of having killed more people than your guns.


76 posted on 04/04/2022 7:06:27 PM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: Houserino

Way weird.


77 posted on 04/04/2022 7:10:37 PM PDT by mcshot (Awe shucks and a whole lot more!)
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To: Houserino

Overwhelming numbers of studies show that virtually all crimes with firearms occur in Democrat cities and counties. Ban Democrats, not guns!


78 posted on 04/04/2022 7:17:09 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Houserino
I always get suspicious when a news release about a study does not include a link to the actual study.

Here is the paper.

The study has all the hallmarks of a carefully rigged anti-gun "study". The most interesting thing about the study is that apparently it is possible for people to gain access to the entire list of handgun transactions by name for the state of California. That's a surprise to me, because what other legally required registry of people's private activity is readily available from the government?

So now we all know that any government database of firearms transactions ends up leaking out to people who can then connect that data to whatever other data they want to connect it with.

As for the study itself it claims to track the relative risk of living with someone who purchases a handgun. It does not include any data related to illegally owned firearms, or firearms not in the California registry the researchers used.

The study claims that rates of homicides are higher for people living with people who have firearms, but does not attempt to control for all of the factors which may lead to the results they claim. I suspect further analysis of the study, or access to the underlying data, will show that their study methodology is flawed.

79 posted on 04/04/2022 7:27:43 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Houserino

How many handguns in homes in South Central LA compared to West Los Angeles? Just my racist demon arising.


80 posted on 04/04/2022 7:43:11 PM PDT by Pirate Ragnar (Hope coming from Florida)
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