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Ukrainian Police Said They Conducted “Clearing Op” in Bucha a Day Before Dead Body Videos Emerged
https://summit.news ^ | 4 Apr 2022 | Paul Joseph Watson

Posted on 04/04/2022 10:17:02 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: EarlyBird

The mayor announced the Russians had departed on March 30. He somehow neglected to mention the atrocity of the murder of hundreds of his citizens in the streets. For some reason it never even occurred to him! Then not a word about it until the Uke militias moved in a couple of days later, on the 3rd. That is when the bodies were “discovered”.


61 posted on 04/04/2022 4:45:32 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

“That video of the corpse climbing out of the body bag wins the Internet for the month.”

Ah you mean the one originally made of one of Greta Scoldilocks’ climate change protests that the Russians tried to pass off as Ukrainian?


62 posted on 04/04/2022 5:19:55 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying Too All.)
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To: DesertRhino
The mayor announced the Russians had departed on March 30. He somehow neglected to mention the atrocity of the murder of hundreds of his citizens in the streets. For some reason it never even occurred to him! Then not a word about it until the Uke militias moved in a couple of days later, on the 3rd. That is when the bodies were “discovered”.

Obviously, the mayor is a Russian stooge (two can play at this game).

How do you explain all of the torched Russian armor?

63 posted on 04/04/2022 5:29:01 PM PDT by EarlyBird (There’s a whole lot of winning going on around here!)
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To: XRdsRev

https://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Countries/UA/Ukraine_14th_HRMMU_Report.pdf

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Countries/UA/Ukraine_14th_HRMMU_Report.pdf

I got a bunch more if you want.

US congress explicitly banned direct US $$ payments to Azov, Aidar, etc after the reports.


64 posted on 04/04/2022 5:30:51 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: XRdsRev

Whoops I meant to post this one

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/e/7/233896.pdf


65 posted on 04/04/2022 5:31:51 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Man who wears the star

You misunderstand. We hate our own Government and their cohorts ( e.g. the media and the big woke corporate oligarchy) more than any foreign enemy.


66 posted on 04/04/2022 6:48:43 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: Mount Athos

I am not really understanding your point. We all know AZOV are not altar boys but the Russians are not either and there is no evidence at this point that AZOV had anything to do with the massacre of civilians in the current conflict.


67 posted on 04/04/2022 7:08:51 PM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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68 posted on 04/04/2022 7:43:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: fireman15; TheConservator

A note that when posting the Powell Doctrine (modified Weinburger Doctrine)

1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?
2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?
3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?
4. Have all other nonviolent policy means been fully exhausted?
5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?
7. Is the action supported by the American people?

not one FReeper who has called for overt US military involvement in the Ukraine has answered the seven questions. One excuse by a FReeper is that Powell was a failure. That’s a sign of intellectual laziness trying to be covered up (poorly) by calling Powell a failure. Either they are valid questions or they are not.


69 posted on 04/05/2022 5:17:50 AM PDT by Fury
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7. Is the action supported by the American people?

This is the only point in the “Powell Doctrine” that may have been satisfied due to nonstop misleading and incomplete information and pure propaganda.

Ahead of our involvement in WWI there was a similar propaganda campaign started by the Wilson administration and the people who owned and were in charge of the media. It was culminated in an executive order signed in 1917 which created ‘the nation's first ministry of information’. Before the executive order and our entry into the war the Wilson administration helped to lead a propaganda campaign and had said that he expected Americans to show what he considered “loyalty” or face the consequences.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-woodrow-wilsons-propaganda-machine-changed-american-journalism-180963082/

My wife's grandfather was a German immigrant who joined the US Army to gain citizenship and served during the Spanish American War. My wife's grandmother met him while he was stationed at Camp Douglass in Wisconsin. She was in a group from her church which helped feed men who were on the troop trains. She went to give him a cookie from her basket and tripped and stubbed her toe on the board walk and dropped her basket of sandwiches and cookies. The rest is history.

They were married and eventually had several children. After he was discharged, he became a teacher and the family settled in Oregon. Although he had an accent, he did not allow German to be spoken in the home.

Before the United States joined the war, the propaganda campaign resulted in him being fired from his job, the children being attacked multiple times, their house was burned down and they were run out of town with nothing but the clothes on their backs. During the war they lived in a shack, the clothes they had turned to rags and all nearly starved to death. My wife's mother was just a baby at the time. After the war they were able to move to Washington State where he resumed teaching, he eventually became a principal and then superintendent of a small school district. After that he was hired to become the superintendent of schools of a much larger city.

Despite their negative experiences, the family was very patriotic and did not hold what happened to them against the country. But what I read here from some posters nearly every day indicates that propaganda is still a very effective tool to lead public opinion. We have a bunch of easily misled people here who an embarrassment to those of us who try to use reason to form our opinions. And these people constantly engage in nonsensical name calling using such terms as “Putin puffer” against those who have never said anything positive about the Russian dictator but question our country engaging in another foreign entanglement and possibly contributing to the starting of WWIII.

70 posted on 04/05/2022 8:11:16 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

What a great post. Thanks for the background on the WWI era propaganda. I had read some of that era and Wilson was a racist bureaucrat that arrested US citizens for anti-war views.


71 posted on 04/05/2022 10:37:50 AM PDT by Fury
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