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EU Preps New Russia Sanctions After Bucha Massacre Which Kremlin Calls Staged "Provocation"
Mixed Times ^ | 04/04/2022 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 04/04/2022 8:52:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Lurker
Oh I have thought it through.

You may have missed the part where this perfectly alive person has - apparently - been lying in the street for three days. And no-one noticed.

But I guess some sort of group blindness is plausible. After all: the Russians left on the 30th, and no-one noticed all of these bodies in the street until the 3rd.

21 posted on 04/04/2022 9:26:51 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

Video I watched showed soldiers dragging the bodies to the side via attached cables, because of fear of booby traps. Those bodies being dragged looked very dead, and not staged.


22 posted on 04/04/2022 9:30:49 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat
The presence of a literal living person pretending to be a corpse does rather destroy this particular atrocity narrative.

Not to mention that the National Police of Ukraine published a video on the 2nd that for some reason missed all of these bodies in the street.

23 posted on 04/04/2022 9:43:53 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: SeekAndFind
Question:

I may be mistaken, but I recall "Tyler Durden" of Zero Hedge, being restricted to Blog & Personal.

You posted this in News & Activism, so it was accepted there by FR.

Has the FR policy changed, or was it Zero Hedge, as Tyler Durden is a fictitious Nom De Plume.

24 posted on 04/04/2022 9:46:42 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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RE: I may be mistaken, but I recall “Tyler Durden” of Zero Hedge, being restricted to Blog & Personal.

The site, Zero Hedge used to be restricted to Blog and Personal, not sure about Tyler Durden, the author.


25 posted on 04/04/2022 9:52:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

it’s certainly possible that this was staged
https://summit.news/2022/04/04/ukrainian-police-said-they-conducted-clearing-op-in-bucha-a-day-before-dead-body-videos-emerged/


26 posted on 04/04/2022 9:53:31 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks, Seek, that explains it.


27 posted on 04/04/2022 9:54:23 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: MercyFlush

Fascinating how those clever Ukes staged an entire invasion & all that. Hollywood’s got nuthin’ on them.


28 posted on 04/04/2022 9:54:34 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: agere_contra

I’m neutral, don’t care either way. But innocent civilians are being killed. Some soldiers do it because they’re hungry, hostile, and thieving while disobeying norms of combat. Others do it by command. War is hell for civilians caught in the middle.


29 posted on 04/04/2022 9:56:41 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: MercyFlush

And just because you keep reporting stuff to the mods, noob trash, doesn’t mean you’ll get away with being a retread fraud.

You’re still that, no matter what.


30 posted on 04/04/2022 10:03:39 AM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: roadcat
Good for you Roadcat. No Irony.

I'm sorry for the slightly severe tone in my last, which may have sounded as if I was exasperated at you. I am not.

I can certainly believe that there are civilian bodies in Ukraine, and that sappers would move them carefully. How did they die, who killed them, was it an accident: these are questions that any rational person should ask.

But FReepers do not do good service to the real deaths - and real atrocities - in this eight-year-long war if we accept just any story at face value.

Some ... over-investment in a narrative has become apparent on this thread. Not from you I'm glad to say.

31 posted on 04/04/2022 10:05:21 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: AAABEST

“doesn’t mean you’ll get away with being a retread fraud.”

I’ve been open and honest about being a retread, so what’s your point, Grandpa?

The mods can see my IP address and they know who I am. There’s no evasion happening here except in your mind.

Now go change your Depends before you get diaper rash.


32 posted on 04/04/2022 10:14:53 AM PDT by MercyFlush (I don't follow the science. I follow the money. )
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“Fascinating how those clever Ukes staged an entire invasion & all that. Hollywood’s got nuthin’ on them.”

LOL. Makes me wonder when the Russian narrative will be about how the evil Uke-Nazis tricked the poor Russians into invading Ukraine as some sort of dirty trick to destroy Russia’s military.


33 posted on 04/04/2022 10:16:48 AM PDT by MercyFlush (I don't follow the science. I follow the money. )
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To: MercyFlush

some sort of dirty trick to destroy Russia’s military.
***which, of course, was never destroyed.


34 posted on 04/04/2022 10:24:18 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: agere_contra

SouthFront? That’s your source? SouthFront is a Kremlin-backed propaganda rag, with connections to the FSB (fka KGB). It is Russia’s version of Der Sturmer.


35 posted on 04/04/2022 10:27:28 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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SouthFront? That’s your source?

Expreso.TV is the source.

The same video used to 'prove' the atrocity shows that it's a false flag.

That's an efficient news cycle right there.

36 posted on 04/04/2022 10:34:06 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

No, YOUR link, the one you have high-lighted in your post, is SouthFront.


37 posted on 04/04/2022 10:40:12 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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But the video embedded on the page is Expreso? As per my OP?

You ... may not have taken on board the other intriguing facts about this atrocity. The bodies being invisible for two days, for instance.

38 posted on 04/04/2022 10:45:23 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

“You ... may not have taken on board the other intriguing facts about this atrocity. The bodies being invisible for two days, for instance.”

Kind of like My Lai; or Babi Yar; or countless other atrocities throughout history. You must think that unless there is some Johnny-on-the-Spot reporter present to film the still warm bodies that what occurred is fiction.

Here’s one for you: Katyn Forest. Not only was it covered up for years, but the perpetrators (Russian) blamed it on their at-the-time allies, the Germans. Russians have historically blamed their horrific actions on someone else. But, perhaps you know that, and are okay with it.


39 posted on 04/04/2022 11:03:46 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Lurker

He’s claiming that the corpse was staged and he was waving his arm. Except that if you look at the source video that isn’t highly pixelated it’s clear that it’s a raindrop in the windshield. The raindrop is an arm line came out just after Ukraine started broadcasting video of the bodies. Bodies in the streets, bodies in yards, bodies in cellars, bodies in pits.

It’s sad. The Russians invaded Ukraine and people die in wars. Whenver people die at Russian hands that makes them look bad they come up with some nonsense about some aspect of it so that the public thinks nothing ever happened.

It’s like the maternity hospital a couple weeks ago. Russia claimed it was long abandoned and one of the women was an influencer so fake. Great. Except there were news reports several days before of the hospital being occupied and now this influencer has escaped but to Russia. Even though she’s stuck in Russia she’s saying the attack was real to Russian state media. But now the Russians are trying to frame it as Ukrainians blowing themselves up (I didn’t hear an airplane). The old story is long forgotten, enter the new conspiracy.


40 posted on 04/04/2022 11:07:42 AM PDT by jimnm
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