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Russians hand control of Chornobyl nuclear plant back to Ukraine, IAEA says
CNBC ^ | March 31st, 2022 | Kevin Breuninger

Posted on 03/31/2022 2:36:49 PM PDT by shadowlands1960

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To: Fido969

The glow-in-the-dark troops will get used for night actions…. /sarc


41 posted on 03/31/2022 3:24:04 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

That last is basically the story of Russian military victories for at least the last 200 years.


42 posted on 03/31/2022 3:25:58 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
By trying to attack from every possible direction at the same time, the Russians ignored the military principle of mass.

Kiev was a feint, the Russians never put a full attack on the city. Kiev really has no value to the Russians, it would take too much to capture, and would be too hard to hold. But Kiev has high value to Ukraine, and so a large part of their army is pinned there. Ukraine also has a large defense around Odessa.

Russia really wants the eastern provinces, and so is keeping up the attack there. Mariupol is surrounded, and the Russians are taking it block by block, eliminating Azov forces. Russian units are now being released from Kiev, presumably to be transferred to the eastern territories.

This is a good time for a truce, Russia would take the eastern provinces, and have a land bridge to the Crimea. Zelenskyy understands a truce would be good, it would stop the killing. Both sides might wait until the Azov units are crushed, they are a headache to both sides.

But western forces are telling Zelenskyy to keep fighting, and promising weapons and money if he does. But Zelenskyy knows without the no-fly zone, his army will continue to get chewed up. He feels betrayed the west strung him along on that.

The biggest fear now, is that Biden, being cornered with lousy politics and polls, and the hunter laptop thing about to explode, could distract from his problems by instituting a no-fly zone. It would be risky, but a major war just might keep him out of jail. It's happened before.

43 posted on 03/31/2022 3:26:29 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: Oscar in Batangas

Heh! I learned to play that on my accordian!


44 posted on 03/31/2022 3:26:52 PM PDT by refermech
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To: shadowlands1960

Ownership is nine tenths of the law and who really wants that mess.
The Russians left it decades ago and I don’t think they want the headache. New the Russian have to live with some of the pain already. There was a article published on 29 March that a convoy of Russian s drove through the red forest. The worst contaminated area in the Chernobyl region w/o protection on. Maybe not walking dead men but their actions shortened their lives based on the Ukrainians who saw it. How many Russian soldiers are going to stand guard over that cursed place?


45 posted on 03/31/2022 3:27:08 PM PDT by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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To: FreedomPoster

Probably explains why they lost in Afghanistan and in the First Chechen War. Russians no longer have the stomach for the massive casualties that approach requires, especially when they’re not even defending their own country.


46 posted on 03/31/2022 3:27:40 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .</I><p>)
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To: shadowlands1960

https://ukranews.com/en/news/845829-invaders-sign-act-of-transfer-and-acceptance-of-protection-of-chornobyl-npp-energoatom


47 posted on 03/31/2022 3:31:54 PM PDT by elpadre (And here in NCini)
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To: Fido969

Kiev was a feint, the Russians never put a full attack on the city. Kiev really has no value to the Russians


You write a revisionist fairy tale. Nobody believes that except the most dedicated and brain washed Putinists. Some of the best units in the Russian army turned to dust in the Kyiv suburbs. They are destroyed now. No army does that to their best units willingly.


48 posted on 03/31/2022 3:32:07 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Renfrew

Plan E - ransom what they want in Ukraine out of the corrupt EU government.


49 posted on 03/31/2022 3:32:59 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: shadowlands1960

RE: Russians hand control of Chornobyl nuclear plant back to Ukraine

WHAT’S WITH THE CHANGE IN SPELLING AGAIN?

There was a time when everyone spelled the name as CHERNOBYL. Now it’s CHORNOBYL??


50 posted on 03/31/2022 3:34:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Fido969

ROFL

Sure... Sure...

You people are so predictable. And so pathetic.


51 posted on 03/31/2022 3:36:59 PM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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To: shadowlands1960
"...troops in the area have also moved back toward Kremlin-allied Belarus ....

And at night you can see them Rooskies glowing in the dark. I would not be surprised if callous Russian generals knew about the radiation dangers, but ordered their troops into Chernobyl anyhow. Partly because these generals were ordered to by their superiors. Pooty Poot prolly sent the orders from his Führerbunker in the Ural Mountains.

52 posted on 03/31/2022 3:37:47 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Of course they will. They are human pretzels. Twisting to fit whatever “logic” they can manufacture to justify what is happening.


53 posted on 03/31/2022 3:37:48 PM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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To: Fido969
It's not a feint when you commit and lose that many troops. And actually, on this level, a feint would have been pointless anyway because western intelligence, and particularly satellite imagery, meant that the Russians couldn't really fool the Ukrainians anyway. The Ukrainians knew the strength of the forces opposing them, and were staffed appropriately. Best evidence of that is the lack of a single major Russian breakthrough anywhere.

This would be a very good time for a ceasefire from the Russian perspective, because that would give them time to move the forces withdrawn from Kiev to a different front. This would be a poor time for a ceasefire from the Ukrainian perspective unless the Russians agree to the terms on which the Ukrainians have been insisting all along. Right now, the smart Ukrainian play is to intelligently pursue withdrawing Russian units to inflict maximum casualties.

54 posted on 03/31/2022 3:42:23 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .</I><p>)
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To: lodi90
Russians didn't have enough troops right from the start if the Ukrainians decided to fight. Instead of having overwhelming force, they've had to use their best (relatively speaking...) troops to try to grind out territory against a very motivated foe. They've now had over a month, and this thing doesn't look even close to being over.

Main invasion simply failed.

For those who say "well, Putin really just wanted the Donbass and Crimea" then he could have simply stopped there in February. He wanted to install a puppet regime in Kyiv, thought the Ukrainians would fold...and they didn't.

55 posted on 03/31/2022 3:46:14 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .</I><p>)
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To: lodi90
Some of the best units in the Russian army turned to dust in the Kyiv suburbs. They are destroyed now. No army does that to their best units willingly.

Huh. So NOW you believe the government, New York Times and CNN.

lol.

56 posted on 03/31/2022 3:49:04 PM PDT by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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The Russians have been hitting all sorts of military objectives. And occupying towns relevant to military objectives.

Chernobyl likely doesn’t really qualify.


57 posted on 03/31/2022 3:49:24 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Fido969

No, I believe the Russians. They sent airborne and spec ops on an opposed airborne assault on Kyiv. A suicide mission. That, obviously, is not a “feint.” LOL.


58 posted on 03/31/2022 3:53:55 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Owen

RE: The Russians have been hitting all sorts of military objectives. And occupying towns relevant to military objectives.

Can you explain to us:

1. What military objectives the Russians have?

2. What towns help them meet these objectives?


59 posted on 03/31/2022 3:54:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

An interesting angle on the general subject:

Russians Know Death Unlike Any Other People
The number of Russians killed in the 20th century is staggering.
https://spectator.org/russians-know-death-unlike-any-other-people/


60 posted on 03/31/2022 4:05:52 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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