Posted on 03/29/2022 9:02:35 AM PDT by marshmallow
The delegations of Russia and Ukraine met in Istanbul earlier today for a new round of negotiations to end the special military operation that Moscow launched on 24 February.
Russian delegation received a "clearly articulated position" from Ukraine during the negotiations in Istanbul, Turkey on 29 March, chief Russian Negotiator Vladimir Medinsky has stated. He added that today's negotiations were "constructive" in their nature. He noted that Kiev's written proposals signalled Ukraine's readiness for compromise.
"We have received written proposals from Ukraine confirming their readiness for a neutral, non-aligned and non-nuclear status, along with a refusal to produce and deploy all types of weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and bacteriological ones, and a ban on the presence of foreign military bases and foreign troops on the territory of the country", Medinsky said.
The head of the Russian delegation also revealed other proposals discussed with the Ukrainian delegation:
* Russia will not object to Ukraine joining the European Union
* Ukraine will reject the idea of returning Crimea and Donbass using military means
* Ukraine presented a list of guarantor-states that will ensure its security
* The Ukrainian proposal on international guarantees for its safety does not include the territories of Donbass and Crimea.
* Kiev will not allow foreign troops or foreign military bases to be deployed on its territory without the explicit consent from all guarantor-states. The same goes for holding military drills.
The Ukrainian delegation proposed making the permanent members of the UN Security Council, as well as Germany, Canada, Poland, Israel, and Turkey the guarantor states that would ensure Ukraine's security.
Medinsky elaborated that the position of Kiev will be reviewed by Moscow and presented to President Vladimir Putin. After that, the Kremlin will give its response on whether it agrees to include Kiev's propositions in......
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No. You confuse the Ukrainians with Russian Separatists.
Not your fault. Uniforms were actually confiscated from captured Russian troops.
“Russia will not object to Ukraine joining the European Union”
Agree. Putin has no intention to allow Ukraine to become independent.
Actually, Putin can’t take Ukraine so he’s taking its people. Dozens of civilians have been abducted and thousands more deported to Russia. These war crimes have names and faces. Please share them and demand their safe return. Ask @KremlinRussia_E where are the taken? #TheTakenhttps://twitter.com/sikorskiradek/status/1508430224509259796?s=12&fbclid=IwAR0St_6Xa_Bz4WbTCajKh-CccUdI-oRXmPr_X7SaSJ5aiz-mn9t8rOu86y0
“As for US reliability, I suspect it’s because we have no interests there.”
With that reasoning, the US has no interests anywhere, because we are seen as unreliable by pretty much everyone.
Ukraine violated the part of the Minsk agreement concerning the breakaway regions prior to them breaking away.
“With that reasoning, the US has no interests anywhere, because we are seen as unreliable by pretty much everyone.”
We are seen as unreliable due to all the blustering BS spewed by moralizing do-gooders about “red lines” and “sanctity of international borders” and “legitimate aspirations of the people” and the “sanctity of democratic process and norms”...when we have no intention of doing anything REAL about them.
We pump up countries and peoples all over the world, then deflate them. And more times than not, over some ephemeral moral issue that is none of our business. All while looking the other way when it happens somewhere else.
At best the US is feckless is this regard.
A national morality has caused us to over commit to a ludicrous degree without ever giving thought to the real repercussions...or what happens when the bet is called.
“Ukraine violated the part of the Minsk agreement concerning the breakaway regions prior to them breaking away.”
Neat trick. Considering:
Pro-Russian separatists declared the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) on April 7, 2014, and the Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR) a few weeks later, both as being independent from Ukraine. These were by “referendum.”
So, they “broke away” in April and May, 2014.
Minsk I was signed on September 5, 2014 (or about 4 months after the referendums; and Minsk II was signed on February 12, 2015, nine months after the referendums.
Russia has shown that it will go to war to protect her sphere of influence, and has stated it will use nuclear weapons to do it.
Like or not, Russia is part of the deal.
The rest of Europe and the US had better start rearming fast, because after the Baltic states Poland and East Germany are next.
Now, as the war grinds on, the Ukrainians are becoming more realistic, and Zelinskyy has acquiesced on a number of these terms, in public statements, or as reported from the negotiations.
We're getting close to a negotiated settlement.
#8 should be: Zelensky resigns and is banished to a deserted island where the nearest TV camera is ten thousand miles away, and there are no pianos.
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