So, absolutely NOTHING in the Budapest Memorandum, that you’re constantly citing, requires the US to provide direct military assistance to Ukraine if they’re invaded.
***What does “Assured Security” and “respect of borders” mean to you?
Thank you for finally admitting the obvious.
***If you’re gonna finally admit the obvious that an invasion into a signatory’s territory is a violation of this agreement, then I will admit what you call the obvious here.
In addition, the language is clear and simple
***to a weasel
- since Ukraine signed off on it, they either understood that the US had no obligation to provide military support if Russia invaded,
***To be candid, I do not think the Ukes understood this at all.
or they’re all complete morons.
***They simply got duped. Which means they’ll be looking to build their own nuke capability real soon.
Either way, the US is in no way ‘backing Ukraine into a corner’, by not providing military assistance that Ukraine has always known
***NO. Ukraine has NOT always known this, they just recently learned what a POS America is for giving assurances they have no intention to keep.
is NOT AN AMERICAN OBLIGATION.
***I see plenty of American Obligation in that treaty, just like I see it as a violation of the treaty OBVIOUSLY, wherein an invasion of the country is not “respecting its borders”.
Kevmo: Then stay the hell out of the middle of it, pantywaist. Yours was essentially a 100% troll maneuver.
Galt: Sorry if I hurt your feelings!
***Hurt feelins got nuthin to do with it. You’re simply acting like a troll.
As noted in my post, I thought you might find the reference in your personal copy of the Budapest Memorandum, right next to the supposed requirement that the US intervene militarily if Ukraine was invaded -
***Total troll injection. I should just start treating you like the despicable troll you are.
and you have now admitted
***I have not admitted it, such an admission is conditional to your admission which, since you’re acting like such an @$$#0lic troll, I do not expect.
that no such requirement has ever existed.
***Oh, it exists. Just like it existed in 1938 and pantywaist appeasers like you found ways to abrogate their responsibilities to prevent a world war.
Thanks again for proving my point...
***I will be thanking you for being a troll at some point...
Reread the agreement - neither phrase means 'the US shall come to the military defense of Ukraine'. Words have specific meanings, unless you're a Democrat (or apparently 'Kevmo' ;>).
Thank you for finally admitting the obvious. ***If you’re gonna finally admit the obvious that an invasion into a signatory’s territory is a violation of this agreement, then I will admit what you call the obvious here.
Ok, now you're posting a strawman argument - I've never suggested Russia did not violate the agreement. The problem for you is, the memorandum specifies a response to such violations - refer the matter to the UN Security Council. Nowhere does the agreement mention "no-fly zones" or other military action.
In addition, the language is clear and simple ***to a weasel
My, you do have quite the lexicon of insults - let's add "weasel" to "appeasers", "pantywaist panzie appeasers", "pantywaist", "troll", "pantywaist appeaser", "pukes like you", "putinista$$kissing", etc. Perhaps you should consider some sort of anger management assistance.
- since Ukraine signed off on it, they either understood that the US had no obligation to provide military support if Russia invaded, ***To be candid, I do not think the Ukes understood this at all.
Oh, you betcha - they're signing an international agreement, but the poor Ukrainian government had nobody available to read plain English. You're better at making excuses than a Democrat politician.
or they’re all complete morons. ***They simply got duped. Which means they’ll be looking to build their own nuke capability real soon.
The Ukranians "got duped"? Maybe in some alternative universe, where words written on paper magically 'transmogrify' into different words written on paper. In reality, it's simple language, the Ukrainians agreed to it, and the US is under no obligation beyond those specific written terms.
Either way, the US is in no way ‘backing Ukraine into a corner’, by not providing military assistance that Ukraine has always known ***NO. Ukraine has NOT always known this, they just recently learned what a POS America is for giving assurances they have no intention to keep.
More excuses, plus "blame America first" - how nice!
is NOT AN AMERICAN OBLIGATION. ***I see plenty of American Obligation in that treaty, just like I see it as a violation of the treaty OBVIOUSLY, wherein an invasion of the country is not “respecting its borders”.
You may "see" it, but it's not in the written terms you yourself quoted. Simply put, you "see" things that don't exist. You may wish to discuss that issue with someone.
Kevmo: Then stay the hell out of the middle of it, pantywaist. Yours was essentially a 100% troll maneuver. Galt: Sorry if I hurt your feelings! ***Hurt feelins got nuthin to do with it. You’re simply acting like a troll.
I can't believe you're unfamiliar with sarcasm (posts clearly labeled "\sarc")! Apparently you were "seeing" something in my post that was not actually there - just as you "see" obligations in the Budapest Memorandum that are not really there.
As noted in my post, I thought you might find the reference in your personal copy of the Budapest Memorandum, right next to the supposed requirement that the US intervene militarily if Ukraine was invaded - ***Total troll injection. I should just start treating you like the despicable troll you are.
"Troll...troll...troll..." Looks like your list of favorite insults is shorter than I thought.
and you have now admitted ***I have not admitted it, such an admission is conditional to your admission which, since you’re acting like such an @$$#0lic troll, I do not expect.
Oops - spoke too soon. Let's add "$$#0lic" to the Kevmo insult list.
that no such requirement has ever existed. ***Oh, it exists. Just like it existed in 1938 and pantywaist appeasers like you found ways to abrogate their responsibilities to prevent a world war.
And another post winds up with the one-size-fits-all "Crystal Ball" argument - "We need to send in US troops now, and risk nuclear war, because my Crystal Ball tells me WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE if we don't!!!"
Thanks again for proving my point... ***I will be thanking you for being a troll at some point...
Hopefully it doesn't involve sending me one of those suitcase nukes that you apparently know how to build! \sarc
;>)