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THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP
A Son of the New American Revolution ^ | 22 Mar22 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 03/23/2022 6:34:27 PM PDT by delta7

Question 1– Can you explain to me why you think Russia is winning the war in Ukraine?

Larry C. Johnson– Within the first 24 hours of the Russian military operation in Ukraine, all Ukrainian Ground Radar Intercept capabilities were wiped out. Without those radars, the Ukrainian Air Force lost its ability to do air to air intercept. In the intervening three weeks, Russia has established a de facto No Fly Zone over Ukraine. While still vulnerable to shoulder fired Surface to Air Missiles supplied by the U.S. and NATO to the Ukrainians, there is no evidence that Russia has had to curtail Combat Air Operations.

Russia’s arrival in Kiev within three days of the invasion also caught my attention. I recalled that the Nazi’s in Operation Barbarossa took seven weeks to reach Kiev and the required 7 more weeks to subdue the city. The Nazis had the advantage of not pulling punches to avoid civilian casualties and were eager to destroy critical infrastructure. Yet many so-called American military experts claimed that Russia was bogged down. When a 24 mile (or 40 mile, depends on the news source) was positioned north of Kiev for more than a week, it was clear that Ukraine’s ability to launch significant military operations had been eliminated. If their artillery was intact, then that column was easy pickings for massive destruction. That did not happen. Alternatively, if the Ukrainian’s had a viable fixed wing or rotary wing capability they should have destroyed that column from the air. That did not happen. Or, if they had a viable cruise missile capability they should have rained down hell on the supposedly stalled Russian column. That did not happen. The Ukrainians did not even mount a significant infantry ambush of the column with their newly supplied U.S. Javelins.

The scale and scope of the Russian attack is remarkable. They captured territory in three weeks that is larger than the land mass of the United Kingdom. They then proceeded to carry out targeted attacks on key cities and military installations. We have not seen a single instance of a Ukrainian regiment or brigade size unit attacking and defeating a comparable Russian unit. Instead, the Russians have split the Ukrainian Army into fragments and cut their lines of communication. The Russians are consolidating their control of Mariupol and have secured all approaches on the Black Sea. Ukraine is now cut off in the South and the North.

I would note that the U.S. had a tougher time capturing this much territory in Iraq in 2003 while fighting against a far inferior, less capable military force. If anything, this Russian operation should scare the hell out of U.S. military and political leaders.

The really big news came this week with the Russian missile strikes on what are de facto NATO bases in Yavoriv and Zhytomyr. NATO conducted cyber security training at Zhytomyr in September 2018 and described Ukraine as a “NATO partner.” Zhytomyr was destroyed with hypersonic missiles on Saturday. Yavoriv suffered a similar fate last Sunday. It was the primary training and logistics center that NATO and EUCOM used to supply fighters and weapons to Ukraine. A large number of the military and civilian personnel at that base became casualties.

Not only is Russia striking and destroying bases used by NATO regularly since 2015, but there was no air raid warning and there was no shutdown of the attacking missiles.

Question 2– Why is the media trying to convince the Ukrainian people that they can prevail in their war against Russia? If what you say is correct, then all the civilians that are being sent to fight the Russian army, are dying in a war they can’t win. I don’t understand why the media would want to mislead people on something so serious. What are your thoughts on the matter?

Larry C. Johnson– This is a combination of ignorance and laziness. Rather than do real reporting, the vast majority of the media (print and electronic) as well as Big Tech are supporting a massive propaganda campaign. I remember when George W. Bush was Hitler. I remember when Donald Trump was Hitler. And now we have a new Hitler, Vladimir Putin. This is a tired, failed playbook. Anyone who dares to raise legitimate questions about is immediately tarred as a Putin puppet or a Russia stooge. When you cannot argue facts the only recourse is name calling.

Question 3– Last week, Colonel Douglas MacGregor was a guest on the Tucker Carlson Show. His views on the war are strikingly similar to your own. Here’s what he said in the interview:

“The war is really over for the Ukrainians. They have been ground into bits, there is no question about that despite what we hear from our mainstream media. So, the real question for us at this stage is, Tucker, are we going to live with the Russian people and their government or we going to continue to pursue this sort of regime change dressed up as a Ukrainian war? Are we going to stop using Ukraine as a battering ram against Moscow, which is effectively what we’ve done.” (Tucker Carlson– MacGregor Interview) Do you agree with MacGregor that the real purpose of goading Russia into a war in Ukraine was “regime change”?

Second, do you agree that Ukraine is being used as a staging ground for the US to carry out a proxy-war on Russia?

Larry C. Johnson– Doug is great analyst but I disagree with him—I don’t think there is anyone in the Biden Administration that is smart enough to think and plan in those strategic terms. In my view the last 7 years have been the inertia of the NATO status quo. What I mean by that is that NATO and Washington, believed they could continue to creep east on Russia’s borders without provoking a reaction. NATO and EUCOM regularly carried out exercises—including providing “offensive” training—and supplied equipment. I believe reports in the United States that the CIA was providing paramilitary training to Ukrainian units operating in the Donbass are credible. But I have trouble believing that after our debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan, we suddenly have Sun Tzu level strategists pulling the strings in Washington.

There is an air of desperation in Washington. Besides trying ban all things Russian, the Biden Administration is trying to bully China, India and Saudi Arabia. I do not see any of those countries falling into line. I believe the Biden crew made a fatal mistake by trying to demonize all things and all people Russian. If anything, this is uniting the Russian people behind Putin and they are ready to dig in for a long struggle.

I am shocked at the miscalculation in thinking economic sanctions on Russia would bring them to their knees. The opposite is true. Russia is self-sufficient and is not dependent on imports. Its exports are critical to the economic well-being of the West. If they withhold wheat, potash, gas, oil, palladium, finished nickel and other key minerals from the West, the European and U.S. economies will be savaged. And this attempt to coerce Russia with sanctions has now made it very likely that the U.S. dollar’s role as the international reserve currency will show up in the dustbin of history.

Question 4– Ever since he delivered his famous speech in Munich in 2007, Putin has been complaining about the “architecture of global security”. In Ukraine we can see how these nagging security issues can evolve into a full-blown war. As you know, in December Putin made a number of demands related to Russian security, but the Biden administration shrugged them off and never responded. Putin wanted written assurances that NATO expansion would not include Ukraine (membership) and that nuclear missile systems would not be deployed to Romania or Poland. Do you think Putin’s demands are unreasonable?

Larry C. Johnson– I think Putin’s demands are quite reasonable. The problem is that 99% of Americans have no idea of the kind of military provocation that NATO and the U.S. have carried out over the last 7 years. The public was always told the military exercises were “defensive.” That simply is not true. Now we have news that DTRA was funding biolabs in Ukraine. I guess Putin could agree to allow U.S. nuclear missile systems in Poland and Romania if Biden agrees to allow comparable Russian systems to be deployed in Cuba, Venezuela and Mexico. When we look at it in those terms we can begin to understand that Putin’s demands are not crazy nor unreasonable.

Question 5– Russian media reports that Russian “high precision, air-launched” missiles struck a facility in west Ukraine “killing more than 100 local troops and foreign mercenaries.” Apparently, the Special Operations training center was located near the town of Ovruch which is just 15 miles from the Polish border. What can you tell us about this incident? Was Russia trying to send a message to NATO?

Larry C. Johnson– Short answer—YES! Russian military strikes in Western Ukraine during the past week have shocked and alarmed NATO officials. The first blow came on Sunday, March 13 at Yavoriv, Ukraine. Russia hit the base with several missiles, some reportedly hypersonic. Over 200 personnel were killed, which included American and British military and intelligence personnel, and hundreds more wounded. Many suffered catastrophic wounds, such as amputations, and are in hospital. Yet, NATO and the western media have shown little interest in reporting on this disaster.

Yavoriv was an important forward base for NATO (see here). Until February (prior to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine), the U.S. 7th Army Training Command was operating from Yavoriv as late as mid-February. Russia has not stopped there. ASB Military news reports Russia hit another site, Delyatyn, which is 60 miles southeast of Yavoriv (on Thursday I believe). Yesterday, Russia hit Zytomyr, another site where NATO previously had a presence. Putin has sent a very clear message—NATO forces in Ukraine will be viewed and treated as combatants. Period.

Question 6– Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has been lionized in the western media as a “wartime leader” and a modern-day “Winston Churchill”. What the media fails to tell its readers is that Zelensky has taken a number of steps to strengthen his grip on power while damaging fragile democratic institutions in Ukraine. For example, Zelensky has “banned eleven opposition-owned news organizations” and tried to bar the head of Ukraine’s largest opposition party, Viktor Medvedchuk, from running for office on a bogus “terrorist financing” charge. This is not the behavior of a leader that is seriously committed to democracy.

What’s your take on Zelensky? Is he really the “patriotic leader” the media makes him out to be?

Larry C. Johnson– Zelensky is a comedian and an actor. Not a very good one at that in my view. The West is cynically using the fact he is Jewish as a diversion from the size-able contingent of Neo-Nazis (and I mean genuine Nazis who still celebrate the Ukrainian Waffen SS unit’s accomplishments while fighting with the Nazis in WW II). The facts are clear—he is banning opposition political parties and shutting down opposition media. I guess that is the new definition of “democracy.”

Question 7– How does this end? There’s an excellent post at the Moon of Alabama site titled “What Will Be The Geographic End State Of The War In Ukraine“. The author of the post, Bernard, seems to think that Ukraine will eventually be partitioned along the Dnieper River “and south along the coast that holds a majority ethnic Russian population.” He also says this:

“This would eliminate Ukrainian access to the Black Sea and create a land bridge towards the Moldavian breakaway Transnistria which is under Russian protection. The rest of the Ukraine would be a land confined, mostly agricultural state, disarmed and too poor to be build up to a new threat to Russia anytime soon. Politically it would be dominated by fascists from Galicia which would then become a major problem for the European Union.” What do you think? Will Putin impose his own territorial settlement on Ukraine in order to reinforce Russian security and bring the hostilities to an end or is a different scenario more likely?

Larry C. Johnson– I agree with Moon. Putin’s primary objective is to secure Russia from foreign threats and effect a divorce with the West. Russia has the physical resources to be an independent sovereign and is in the process of making that vision come true.


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To: Lazamataz
Russia has the same problem with Azov fanatics as we have with Antifa, BLM etc in Kenosha, Minneapolis etc.

So maybe they're not doing so bad considering the land mass they control.

Can't underestimate their nuclear ability with their pinpoint accuracy hitting targets on the east border.

81 posted on 03/23/2022 8:05:59 PM PDT by duckln ( )
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To: Zenjitsuman

Chechnya is an internationally recognised part of the Russian Federation. It is not a seperate country. Kind of like what Texas is to the U.S or Hawaii


82 posted on 03/23/2022 8:06:35 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Petrosius

It seems like Putin is trying to force Zelensky to voluntarily surrender which would give Russia some sort of moral victory.


83 posted on 03/23/2022 8:07:28 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: pierrem15

My question on the labs was why they didnt just destroy all the material they were holding. That was the charter they had frim the disarmament agreements. The failure to do so goes back to the Clinton administration, perpetuated over 30 years.

This is worth a serious investigation and explanations. And probably several bureaucratic careers.


84 posted on 03/23/2022 8:07:29 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: nascarnation

Plus destroy how many Russian industries?

I’ve been following the problem for the Russian air industry. The U.S., Canada, and Europe have basically closed off their airspace to Russian commercial aviation. Russia has closed its airspace to ‘unfriendly nations’. All of this means that Russian airlines are limited to domestic flights only. And they likely will be for many years.

Russia has basically stolen any foreign-owned aircraft in its territory. Many are wearing Aeroflot livery, but they are owned by companies in Europe and leased to the Russian airline. The seized airplanes will never be able to leave Russian airspace and will never be able to get technical support or parts for them again. And of course, the leasing companies will never lease planes to Russia again, or at least for a very long time.

A decent video of how bad this is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrTrpwzVt4g

This is one industry that is screwed because of the special operations in Ukraine. I find it hard to believe that there aren’t others. Are the “Russian” bits of Ukraine worth it? I’ll bet that there are some serious people that are very displeased with how this is playing out.


85 posted on 03/23/2022 8:07:33 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Vermont Lt

Savior of the world, etc.


86 posted on 03/23/2022 8:08:24 PM PDT by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump. )
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To: Bishop_Malachi

Nor have they succeeded in isolating Kiev. They certainly tried, and arguably are still attempting to.


87 posted on 03/23/2022 8:08:43 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Petrosius
Why haven't they taken Kharkiv?. It is literally 25 miles from their own border, and they're still not 3ven close to taking it.

I was particularly amused by the attempt to analogise this two the Iraq war, saying the U.S. should be "scared" by that comparison. Iraq was more than 6000 miles away from the U.S., separated by an entire ocean. And we took Baghdad in 3 weeks.

Russia is invading its next door neighbor, and they still haven't taken any of the largest cities. And the claim that "they don't really want to" is belief by their (rejected) demand for the surrender of Mariupol.

88 posted on 03/23/2022 8:09:10 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .</I><p>)
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To: alternatives?

Good point. One could be targeted at Washington DC but goes off target and hits New York. Rinse and repeat on both sides


89 posted on 03/23/2022 8:09:45 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Curtis LeMay’s job was getting OUR bombers to the Soviet Union, not keeping their’s out.

He was CINC SAC, not ADCOM. By the time he became CINC USAF, the Soviets were doing missiles and let bombers take a back seat.

Richard Rhodes doesn’t know jack about the USAF or its history.

I did 5 years in ADCOM, and 3 in SAC (among many others)—totally different missions.


90 posted on 03/23/2022 8:09:51 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: NWFree

He makes some good points. I don’t believe anything the corrupt media puts out. They have no credibility with be anymore. They lied and covered up democrat corruption for years. They used lies and propaganda to attack president Trump from day one. I’m sorry if I’m skeptical but they earned every bit of it.


91 posted on 03/23/2022 8:11:19 PM PDT by Rdct29 (Democrats are the new Nazi's. They think they deserve total control over the people)
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To: delta7

Is the author the same Larry Johnson who founded “Little Green Footballs”?


92 posted on 03/23/2022 8:11:33 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: pierrem15

“we didn’t want the researchers hiring themselves out to the Iranians, Saddam Hussein or other unsavory parties.”

There are very few parties more unsavory than China and we funded them as well.


93 posted on 03/23/2022 8:12:39 PM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: odawg

Yes, his comparisons between entirely different situations are irrational and ill-considered. Sorry Larry Johnson, thanks for playing, but come back when you are ready to make sense.


94 posted on 03/23/2022 8:12:45 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: mac_truck

I really don’t think it is that simple.

Those maps are partially wrong, because there is NOT a linear line you can draw that says people to the West are ethnically Ukrainians and people to the East are ethnically Russian. It is a very gradual transformation the farther Northwest one goes.

And many Ukrainians actually speak Russian primarily, but still consider themselves Ukranian. And even vice versa.


95 posted on 03/23/2022 8:13:30 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: Lazamataz
If their army performed so unimpressively, why do we think their nuclear forces would perform better?

I suspect that the logistic and maintenance challenges Russia is facing are echoed in thier nuclear force. However, the price of even one missile getting through is incredibly high. A multimegaton blast, even just one would make Katrina a look like a kiss from your sister.

Therefore no one is going to call thier bluff.

96 posted on 03/23/2022 8:14:53 PM PDT by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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To: rfp1234

That was Charles Johnson. The site was good and some great discussions there until Johnson went full on weird and 360°


97 posted on 03/23/2022 8:15:03 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Long Jon No Silver

180° degrees I should say


98 posted on 03/23/2022 8:15:33 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: alternatives?

Why not. Wernher von Braun ring any bells


99 posted on 03/23/2022 8:17:19 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: mac_truck

That’s similar to what the US might look like in 2050.
The purple protuberance in the bottom center even looks like Florida.


100 posted on 03/23/2022 8:17:38 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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