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THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP
A Son of the New American Revolution ^ | 22 Mar22 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 03/23/2022 6:34:27 PM PDT by delta7

Question 1– Can you explain to me why you think Russia is winning the war in Ukraine?

Larry C. Johnson– Within the first 24 hours of the Russian military operation in Ukraine, all Ukrainian Ground Radar Intercept capabilities were wiped out. Without those radars, the Ukrainian Air Force lost its ability to do air to air intercept. In the intervening three weeks, Russia has established a de facto No Fly Zone over Ukraine. While still vulnerable to shoulder fired Surface to Air Missiles supplied by the U.S. and NATO to the Ukrainians, there is no evidence that Russia has had to curtail Combat Air Operations.

Russia’s arrival in Kiev within three days of the invasion also caught my attention. I recalled that the Nazi’s in Operation Barbarossa took seven weeks to reach Kiev and the required 7 more weeks to subdue the city. The Nazis had the advantage of not pulling punches to avoid civilian casualties and were eager to destroy critical infrastructure. Yet many so-called American military experts claimed that Russia was bogged down. When a 24 mile (or 40 mile, depends on the news source) was positioned north of Kiev for more than a week, it was clear that Ukraine’s ability to launch significant military operations had been eliminated. If their artillery was intact, then that column was easy pickings for massive destruction. That did not happen. Alternatively, if the Ukrainian’s had a viable fixed wing or rotary wing capability they should have destroyed that column from the air. That did not happen. Or, if they had a viable cruise missile capability they should have rained down hell on the supposedly stalled Russian column. That did not happen. The Ukrainians did not even mount a significant infantry ambush of the column with their newly supplied U.S. Javelins.

The scale and scope of the Russian attack is remarkable. They captured territory in three weeks that is larger than the land mass of the United Kingdom. They then proceeded to carry out targeted attacks on key cities and military installations. We have not seen a single instance of a Ukrainian regiment or brigade size unit attacking and defeating a comparable Russian unit. Instead, the Russians have split the Ukrainian Army into fragments and cut their lines of communication. The Russians are consolidating their control of Mariupol and have secured all approaches on the Black Sea. Ukraine is now cut off in the South and the North.

I would note that the U.S. had a tougher time capturing this much territory in Iraq in 2003 while fighting against a far inferior, less capable military force. If anything, this Russian operation should scare the hell out of U.S. military and political leaders.

The really big news came this week with the Russian missile strikes on what are de facto NATO bases in Yavoriv and Zhytomyr. NATO conducted cyber security training at Zhytomyr in September 2018 and described Ukraine as a “NATO partner.” Zhytomyr was destroyed with hypersonic missiles on Saturday. Yavoriv suffered a similar fate last Sunday. It was the primary training and logistics center that NATO and EUCOM used to supply fighters and weapons to Ukraine. A large number of the military and civilian personnel at that base became casualties.

Not only is Russia striking and destroying bases used by NATO regularly since 2015, but there was no air raid warning and there was no shutdown of the attacking missiles.

Question 2– Why is the media trying to convince the Ukrainian people that they can prevail in their war against Russia? If what you say is correct, then all the civilians that are being sent to fight the Russian army, are dying in a war they can’t win. I don’t understand why the media would want to mislead people on something so serious. What are your thoughts on the matter?

Larry C. Johnson– This is a combination of ignorance and laziness. Rather than do real reporting, the vast majority of the media (print and electronic) as well as Big Tech are supporting a massive propaganda campaign. I remember when George W. Bush was Hitler. I remember when Donald Trump was Hitler. And now we have a new Hitler, Vladimir Putin. This is a tired, failed playbook. Anyone who dares to raise legitimate questions about is immediately tarred as a Putin puppet or a Russia stooge. When you cannot argue facts the only recourse is name calling.

Question 3– Last week, Colonel Douglas MacGregor was a guest on the Tucker Carlson Show. His views on the war are strikingly similar to your own. Here’s what he said in the interview:

“The war is really over for the Ukrainians. They have been ground into bits, there is no question about that despite what we hear from our mainstream media. So, the real question for us at this stage is, Tucker, are we going to live with the Russian people and their government or we going to continue to pursue this sort of regime change dressed up as a Ukrainian war? Are we going to stop using Ukraine as a battering ram against Moscow, which is effectively what we’ve done.” (Tucker Carlson– MacGregor Interview) Do you agree with MacGregor that the real purpose of goading Russia into a war in Ukraine was “regime change”?

Second, do you agree that Ukraine is being used as a staging ground for the US to carry out a proxy-war on Russia?

Larry C. Johnson– Doug is great analyst but I disagree with him—I don’t think there is anyone in the Biden Administration that is smart enough to think and plan in those strategic terms. In my view the last 7 years have been the inertia of the NATO status quo. What I mean by that is that NATO and Washington, believed they could continue to creep east on Russia’s borders without provoking a reaction. NATO and EUCOM regularly carried out exercises—including providing “offensive” training—and supplied equipment. I believe reports in the United States that the CIA was providing paramilitary training to Ukrainian units operating in the Donbass are credible. But I have trouble believing that after our debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan, we suddenly have Sun Tzu level strategists pulling the strings in Washington.

There is an air of desperation in Washington. Besides trying ban all things Russian, the Biden Administration is trying to bully China, India and Saudi Arabia. I do not see any of those countries falling into line. I believe the Biden crew made a fatal mistake by trying to demonize all things and all people Russian. If anything, this is uniting the Russian people behind Putin and they are ready to dig in for a long struggle.

I am shocked at the miscalculation in thinking economic sanctions on Russia would bring them to their knees. The opposite is true. Russia is self-sufficient and is not dependent on imports. Its exports are critical to the economic well-being of the West. If they withhold wheat, potash, gas, oil, palladium, finished nickel and other key minerals from the West, the European and U.S. economies will be savaged. And this attempt to coerce Russia with sanctions has now made it very likely that the U.S. dollar’s role as the international reserve currency will show up in the dustbin of history.

Question 4– Ever since he delivered his famous speech in Munich in 2007, Putin has been complaining about the “architecture of global security”. In Ukraine we can see how these nagging security issues can evolve into a full-blown war. As you know, in December Putin made a number of demands related to Russian security, but the Biden administration shrugged them off and never responded. Putin wanted written assurances that NATO expansion would not include Ukraine (membership) and that nuclear missile systems would not be deployed to Romania or Poland. Do you think Putin’s demands are unreasonable?

Larry C. Johnson– I think Putin’s demands are quite reasonable. The problem is that 99% of Americans have no idea of the kind of military provocation that NATO and the U.S. have carried out over the last 7 years. The public was always told the military exercises were “defensive.” That simply is not true. Now we have news that DTRA was funding biolabs in Ukraine. I guess Putin could agree to allow U.S. nuclear missile systems in Poland and Romania if Biden agrees to allow comparable Russian systems to be deployed in Cuba, Venezuela and Mexico. When we look at it in those terms we can begin to understand that Putin’s demands are not crazy nor unreasonable.

Question 5– Russian media reports that Russian “high precision, air-launched” missiles struck a facility in west Ukraine “killing more than 100 local troops and foreign mercenaries.” Apparently, the Special Operations training center was located near the town of Ovruch which is just 15 miles from the Polish border. What can you tell us about this incident? Was Russia trying to send a message to NATO?

Larry C. Johnson– Short answer—YES! Russian military strikes in Western Ukraine during the past week have shocked and alarmed NATO officials. The first blow came on Sunday, March 13 at Yavoriv, Ukraine. Russia hit the base with several missiles, some reportedly hypersonic. Over 200 personnel were killed, which included American and British military and intelligence personnel, and hundreds more wounded. Many suffered catastrophic wounds, such as amputations, and are in hospital. Yet, NATO and the western media have shown little interest in reporting on this disaster.

Yavoriv was an important forward base for NATO (see here). Until February (prior to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine), the U.S. 7th Army Training Command was operating from Yavoriv as late as mid-February. Russia has not stopped there. ASB Military news reports Russia hit another site, Delyatyn, which is 60 miles southeast of Yavoriv (on Thursday I believe). Yesterday, Russia hit Zytomyr, another site where NATO previously had a presence. Putin has sent a very clear message—NATO forces in Ukraine will be viewed and treated as combatants. Period.

Question 6– Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has been lionized in the western media as a “wartime leader” and a modern-day “Winston Churchill”. What the media fails to tell its readers is that Zelensky has taken a number of steps to strengthen his grip on power while damaging fragile democratic institutions in Ukraine. For example, Zelensky has “banned eleven opposition-owned news organizations” and tried to bar the head of Ukraine’s largest opposition party, Viktor Medvedchuk, from running for office on a bogus “terrorist financing” charge. This is not the behavior of a leader that is seriously committed to democracy.

What’s your take on Zelensky? Is he really the “patriotic leader” the media makes him out to be?

Larry C. Johnson– Zelensky is a comedian and an actor. Not a very good one at that in my view. The West is cynically using the fact he is Jewish as a diversion from the size-able contingent of Neo-Nazis (and I mean genuine Nazis who still celebrate the Ukrainian Waffen SS unit’s accomplishments while fighting with the Nazis in WW II). The facts are clear—he is banning opposition political parties and shutting down opposition media. I guess that is the new definition of “democracy.”

Question 7– How does this end? There’s an excellent post at the Moon of Alabama site titled “What Will Be The Geographic End State Of The War In Ukraine“. The author of the post, Bernard, seems to think that Ukraine will eventually be partitioned along the Dnieper River “and south along the coast that holds a majority ethnic Russian population.” He also says this:

“This would eliminate Ukrainian access to the Black Sea and create a land bridge towards the Moldavian breakaway Transnistria which is under Russian protection. The rest of the Ukraine would be a land confined, mostly agricultural state, disarmed and too poor to be build up to a new threat to Russia anytime soon. Politically it would be dominated by fascists from Galicia which would then become a major problem for the European Union.” What do you think? Will Putin impose his own territorial settlement on Ukraine in order to reinforce Russian security and bring the hostilities to an end or is a different scenario more likely?

Larry C. Johnson– I agree with Moon. Putin’s primary objective is to secure Russia from foreign threats and effect a divorce with the West. Russia has the physical resources to be an independent sovereign and is in the process of making that vision come true.


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To: freeandfreezing; delta7
There is no more trustworthy source than someone who is a veteran of the CIA and the State Department. In other words a full fledged member of the Deep State.

There is no chance whatsoever that someone like Larry would be telling anything but the truth.

Leftapedia absolutely hates him.

That tells me a lot:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_C._Johnson

Johnson trash-talked Saint "Big Mike" Obama back in the day.

61 posted on 03/23/2022 7:23:48 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Vermont Lt
I have hated Russia since before I knew what hate was.

You're not the brightest bulb on the tree either.

62 posted on 03/23/2022 7:29:23 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: delta7

I always wondered how soros might pull something like this off.


63 posted on 03/23/2022 7:29:53 PM PDT by enduserindy (Yep. )
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To: mac_truck

Good come back. Been working on that all night?


64 posted on 03/23/2022 7:30:21 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: delta7

Some people are saying the opposite. Everything is propaganda.


65 posted on 03/23/2022 7:31:14 PM PDT by x
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To: C210N
It is never a good idea to rely on reddit or twitter posts that require you to believe everything being reported from all sources, including local media in Russia is fake. But you did.

Larry Johnson's take on the combat in Ukraine would be more credible if he showed some basic knowledge of combat strategies. He wrote:

"When a 24 mile (or 40 mile, depends on the news source) was positioned north of Kiev for more than a week, it was clear that Ukraine’s ability to launch significant military operations had been eliminated. If their artillery was intact, then that column was easy pickings for massive destruction. That did not happen. Alternatively, if the Ukrainian’s had a viable fixed wing or rotary wing capability they should have destroyed that column from the air. That did not happen. Or, if they had a viable cruise missile capability they should have rained down hell on the supposedly stalled Russian column. That did not happen. The Ukrainians did not even mount a significant infantry ambush of the column with their newly supplied U.S. Javelins.

Just about every idea he uses to reach his conclusion is incorrect. For example, Ukraine could have all the artillery capability in the world, but if they don't have control of an area within range of the convoy then they cannot use that artillery. Whether or not a combatant uses artillery is about where they can place their artillery, not whether they have any.

Attacking a line of trucks with cruise missiles would be insane in terms of combat management and tactics. Who would deploy expensive, long range missiles against trucks? That isn't something any competent strategist would do.

Johnson claims that the Ukrainians did not ambush or launch ground attacks on the convoy. But there are dozens of videos of ground attacks on convoys by Ukrainian forces. If the Ukrainians have not attacked one particular convoy it is likely that the convoy is not doing anything but sitting still and consuming fuel, food, and equipment.

Johnson's analysis is shallow, and likely to be incorrect.

66 posted on 03/23/2022 7:32:31 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: C210N
The Ukrainian army was decisively defeated with the first 48 yours of Russia's operation. It is no longer functional. Most soldiers have deserted. Ukraine has been effectively demilitarized.

If true then I have one question: Why after a month have the Russians not taken Kyiv? There is much uncertainties and propaganda on all sides but an undisputed fact is that Kyiv was a major objective and that the Russians have not taken it.

67 posted on 03/23/2022 7:37:52 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: kiryandil

We don’t know yet if it’s a divorce or a temporary separation. We also don’t really know the terms yet or even what anyone really wants. Russia’s actions indicate that genocide of the Ukrainians is probably not the goal nor is occupying the entire country. Predictably, a lot of woke Western institutions have cut ties with Russia. Does this mean Russia has to wait a while to get the next Star Wars movie, or does it mean they never get it? Where does China come down on all of this? What if some major oil producer(s) start accepting payment in something other than dollars?

Lots of important things are happening, and we are utterly without leadership. That’s not good.


68 posted on 03/23/2022 7:40:47 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Everyone who disagrees with me is a Qtard blogger!!!!)
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To: freeandfreezing; All
Just about every idea he uses to reach his conclusion is incorrect. For example, Ukraine could have all the artillery capability in the world, but if they don't have control of an area within range of the convoy then they cannot use that artillery. Whether or not a combatant uses artillery is about where they can place their artillery, not whether they have any.

I had the same thoughts. He doesn't know what he is talking about, or he is just trying to convince us with word salad.

69 posted on 03/23/2022 7:52:14 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: delta7

Idiots, the Ukrainian Pilots are using NATO AWACS


70 posted on 03/23/2022 7:54:17 PM PDT by dila813
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To: delta7

LOL I’m sure the thousands of Russian dead littering Ukraine’s fields are cheering.


71 posted on 03/23/2022 7:55:19 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Petrosius

I don’t think territory and/or cities are a the main Russian target.

Putin is taking down the Deep State in Ukraine - this includes biolabs, chernobyl, and pockets of DS troops (Azov).


72 posted on 03/23/2022 7:57:06 PM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: C210N
There are so many imbecilic, counterfactual claims it's hard to respond to that garbage.

The Russians have not succeeded in taking a single major city except Kherson in almost a month, and weaponry and food still flow into the Ukraine from the West.

The Russians haven't even yet taken Mariupol, despite two deadlines for surrender. The only setbacks the Ukrainians are currently facing are the destruction of the bridge to Cherniv and the assault south of Izyum.

73 posted on 03/23/2022 8:00:08 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: cdcdawg
We don’t know yet if it’s a divorce or a temporary separation.

The West cancelled Grandma Babuschka's eye shots for macular degeneration, and stole everything that wasn't nailed down.

They tried zeroing out the ruble - but apparently the shoe is on the other foot now with the ruble.

It's a done deal, from what my sources say.

74 posted on 03/23/2022 8:00:57 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: C210N

You know nothing but only what you read from opinion piece drivelers like Larry Johnson. His pathetic take is 100% conjecture and bias supposition nonsense that’s supported only by his personal conclusions. He paints a false summary as if he’s making analysis of a partially played invasion simulation... and from it he derives half-wit observations as if he’s a decorated commander. His conclusions are beliefs not reality. He seems to pride himself of knowledge, not experience in knowing how to negotiate a large scale invasion using only conventional tactics that would be used in playing a war simulation video game that knows nothing outside of its logistical & tactical programming... knowing only how to anticipate an outcome based upon rule-driven strategy.

Johnson is ignorant of real battle and relies on his program based fantasy modeling. He has ZERO combat experience and ZERO tactical command and execution.

Nothing he has said is factual, only conjectural and anecdotal contrived from a bias and narrow observation.

Believe what you want and flail his steaming pile analysis and conclusions as if it were gospel.

He’s dead wrong.

About this pretentious fantasy military commander, and a big NOBODY Larry ‘Stooge’ Johnson...

Larry C Johnson is a veteran of the CIA and the State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism. He is the founder and managing partner of BERG Associates, which was established in 1998. Larry provided training to the US Military’s Special Operations community for 24 years.

No experience but past analysis and training for the Military’s Special Operations community!

Bwahahahahahahaha! He never got his fingernails dirty or faced combat. He’s a latte pencil pusher who wears a suit giving lectures in conditioned classrooms.


75 posted on 03/23/2022 8:01:20 PM PDT by Bellagio
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To: delta7

Articles saying that “the Russians/the Ukrainians have lost” written by armchair analysts are worth what you pay for them.

Even field reports are frequently localized and biased. None of them deserve credence. Only MILINT people with classified access from either country really know what they’re talking about. Americans gossiping know nothing.


76 posted on 03/23/2022 8:01:20 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: Lazamataz

“If their army performed so unimpressively, why do we think their nuclear forces would perform better?”

Even if their nuclear force performs poorly, the effect could be catastrophic.


77 posted on 03/23/2022 8:03:51 PM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: C210N
The "biolabs" claims have to be just about the stupidest tinfoil hat claims I've ever seen.

US funding of labs all over the former Soviet Union (including Russia) was a matter of public record: we didn't want anything leaking out, and we didn't want the researchers hiring themselves out to the Iranians, Saddam Hussein or other unsavory parties.

78 posted on 03/23/2022 8:03:56 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: mac_truck

So did Richard Pipes (”Russia Under the Old Regime”). An idiot too?


79 posted on 03/23/2022 8:04:21 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Petrosius

If true then I have one question: Why after a month have the Russians not taken Kyiv? There is much uncertainties and propaganda on all sides but an undisputed fact is that Kyiv was a major objective and that the Russians have not taken it.

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I’m certainly no military expert, but why try to forcefully capture every neighborhood street by street and house by house when you can just cut off food, water, gas, medical supplies, and everything else that 21st century people need? It seems to me that there are two main phases where your army could take significant casualties: 1) in the contested phase where your military must defeat the opposing military to effectively gain supremacy of the skies and territory around major pop-centers, and then 2) actually trying to forcefully capture each city block-by-block. Number 1 is unavoidable, but number 2 is much more avoidable if time is on your side and you are patient.


80 posted on 03/23/2022 8:04:54 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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