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THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP
A Son of the New American Revolution ^ | 22 Mar22 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 03/23/2022 6:34:27 PM PDT by delta7

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To: freeandfreezing; delta7
There is no more trustworthy source than someone who is a veteran of the CIA and the State Department. In other words a full fledged member of the Deep State.

There is no chance whatsoever that someone like Larry would be telling anything but the truth.

Leftapedia absolutely hates him.

That tells me a lot:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_C._Johnson

Johnson trash-talked Saint "Big Mike" Obama back in the day.

61 posted on 03/23/2022 7:23:48 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Vermont Lt
I have hated Russia since before I knew what hate was.

You're not the brightest bulb on the tree either.

62 posted on 03/23/2022 7:29:23 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: delta7

I always wondered how soros might pull something like this off.


63 posted on 03/23/2022 7:29:53 PM PDT by enduserindy (Yep. )
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To: mac_truck

Good come back. Been working on that all night?


64 posted on 03/23/2022 7:30:21 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: delta7

Some people are saying the opposite. Everything is propaganda.


65 posted on 03/23/2022 7:31:14 PM PDT by x
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To: C210N
It is never a good idea to rely on reddit or twitter posts that require you to believe everything being reported from all sources, including local media in Russia is fake. But you did.

Larry Johnson's take on the combat in Ukraine would be more credible if he showed some basic knowledge of combat strategies. He wrote:

"When a 24 mile (or 40 mile, depends on the news source) was positioned north of Kiev for more than a week, it was clear that Ukraine’s ability to launch significant military operations had been eliminated. If their artillery was intact, then that column was easy pickings for massive destruction. That did not happen. Alternatively, if the Ukrainian’s had a viable fixed wing or rotary wing capability they should have destroyed that column from the air. That did not happen. Or, if they had a viable cruise missile capability they should have rained down hell on the supposedly stalled Russian column. That did not happen. The Ukrainians did not even mount a significant infantry ambush of the column with their newly supplied U.S. Javelins.

Just about every idea he uses to reach his conclusion is incorrect. For example, Ukraine could have all the artillery capability in the world, but if they don't have control of an area within range of the convoy then they cannot use that artillery. Whether or not a combatant uses artillery is about where they can place their artillery, not whether they have any.

Attacking a line of trucks with cruise missiles would be insane in terms of combat management and tactics. Who would deploy expensive, long range missiles against trucks? That isn't something any competent strategist would do.

Johnson claims that the Ukrainians did not ambush or launch ground attacks on the convoy. But there are dozens of videos of ground attacks on convoys by Ukrainian forces. If the Ukrainians have not attacked one particular convoy it is likely that the convoy is not doing anything but sitting still and consuming fuel, food, and equipment.

Johnson's analysis is shallow, and likely to be incorrect.

66 posted on 03/23/2022 7:32:31 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: C210N
The Ukrainian army was decisively defeated with the first 48 yours of Russia's operation. It is no longer functional. Most soldiers have deserted. Ukraine has been effectively demilitarized.

If true then I have one question: Why after a month have the Russians not taken Kyiv? There is much uncertainties and propaganda on all sides but an undisputed fact is that Kyiv was a major objective and that the Russians have not taken it.

67 posted on 03/23/2022 7:37:52 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: kiryandil

We don’t know yet if it’s a divorce or a temporary separation. We also don’t really know the terms yet or even what anyone really wants. Russia’s actions indicate that genocide of the Ukrainians is probably not the goal nor is occupying the entire country. Predictably, a lot of woke Western institutions have cut ties with Russia. Does this mean Russia has to wait a while to get the next Star Wars movie, or does it mean they never get it? Where does China come down on all of this? What if some major oil producer(s) start accepting payment in something other than dollars?

Lots of important things are happening, and we are utterly without leadership. That’s not good.


68 posted on 03/23/2022 7:40:47 PM PDT by cdcdawg (Everyone who disagrees with me is a Qtard blogger!!!!)
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To: freeandfreezing; All
Just about every idea he uses to reach his conclusion is incorrect. For example, Ukraine could have all the artillery capability in the world, but if they don't have control of an area within range of the convoy then they cannot use that artillery. Whether or not a combatant uses artillery is about where they can place their artillery, not whether they have any.

I had the same thoughts. He doesn't know what he is talking about, or he is just trying to convince us with word salad.

69 posted on 03/23/2022 7:52:14 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: delta7

Idiots, the Ukrainian Pilots are using NATO AWACS


70 posted on 03/23/2022 7:54:17 PM PDT by dila813
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To: delta7

LOL I’m sure the thousands of Russian dead littering Ukraine’s fields are cheering.


71 posted on 03/23/2022 7:55:19 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Petrosius

I don’t think territory and/or cities are a the main Russian target.

Putin is taking down the Deep State in Ukraine - this includes biolabs, chernobyl, and pockets of DS troops (Azov).


72 posted on 03/23/2022 7:57:06 PM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: C210N
There are so many imbecilic, counterfactual claims it's hard to respond to that garbage.

The Russians have not succeeded in taking a single major city except Kherson in almost a month, and weaponry and food still flow into the Ukraine from the West.

The Russians haven't even yet taken Mariupol, despite two deadlines for surrender. The only setbacks the Ukrainians are currently facing are the destruction of the bridge to Cherniv and the assault south of Izyum.

73 posted on 03/23/2022 8:00:08 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: cdcdawg
We don’t know yet if it’s a divorce or a temporary separation.

The West cancelled Grandma Babuschka's eye shots for macular degeneration, and stole everything that wasn't nailed down.

They tried zeroing out the ruble - but apparently the shoe is on the other foot now with the ruble.

It's a done deal, from what my sources say.

74 posted on 03/23/2022 8:00:57 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: C210N

You know nothing but only what you read from opinion piece drivelers like Larry Johnson. His pathetic take is 100% conjecture and bias supposition nonsense that’s supported only by his personal conclusions. He paints a false summary as if he’s making analysis of a partially played invasion simulation... and from it he derives half-wit observations as if he’s a decorated commander. His conclusions are beliefs not reality. He seems to pride himself of knowledge, not experience in knowing how to negotiate a large scale invasion using only conventional tactics that would be used in playing a war simulation video game that knows nothing outside of its logistical & tactical programming... knowing only how to anticipate an outcome based upon rule-driven strategy.

Johnson is ignorant of real battle and relies on his program based fantasy modeling. He has ZERO combat experience and ZERO tactical command and execution.

Nothing he has said is factual, only conjectural and anecdotal contrived from a bias and narrow observation.

Believe what you want and flail his steaming pile analysis and conclusions as if it were gospel.

He’s dead wrong.

About this pretentious fantasy military commander, and a big NOBODY Larry ‘Stooge’ Johnson...

Larry C Johnson is a veteran of the CIA and the State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism. He is the founder and managing partner of BERG Associates, which was established in 1998. Larry provided training to the US Military’s Special Operations community for 24 years.

No experience but past analysis and training for the Military’s Special Operations community!

Bwahahahahahahaha! He never got his fingernails dirty or faced combat. He’s a latte pencil pusher who wears a suit giving lectures in conditioned classrooms.


75 posted on 03/23/2022 8:01:20 PM PDT by Bellagio
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To: delta7

Articles saying that “the Russians/the Ukrainians have lost” written by armchair analysts are worth what you pay for them.

Even field reports are frequently localized and biased. None of them deserve credence. Only MILINT people with classified access from either country really know what they’re talking about. Americans gossiping know nothing.


76 posted on 03/23/2022 8:01:20 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
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To: Lazamataz

“If their army performed so unimpressively, why do we think their nuclear forces would perform better?”

Even if their nuclear force performs poorly, the effect could be catastrophic.


77 posted on 03/23/2022 8:03:51 PM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: C210N
The "biolabs" claims have to be just about the stupidest tinfoil hat claims I've ever seen.

US funding of labs all over the former Soviet Union (including Russia) was a matter of public record: we didn't want anything leaking out, and we didn't want the researchers hiring themselves out to the Iranians, Saddam Hussein or other unsavory parties.

78 posted on 03/23/2022 8:03:56 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: mac_truck

So did Richard Pipes (”Russia Under the Old Regime”). An idiot too?


79 posted on 03/23/2022 8:04:21 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Petrosius

If true then I have one question: Why after a month have the Russians not taken Kyiv? There is much uncertainties and propaganda on all sides but an undisputed fact is that Kyiv was a major objective and that the Russians have not taken it.

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I’m certainly no military expert, but why try to forcefully capture every neighborhood street by street and house by house when you can just cut off food, water, gas, medical supplies, and everything else that 21st century people need? It seems to me that there are two main phases where your army could take significant casualties: 1) in the contested phase where your military must defeat the opposing military to effectively gain supremacy of the skies and territory around major pop-centers, and then 2) actually trying to forcefully capture each city block-by-block. Number 1 is unavoidable, but number 2 is much more avoidable if time is on your side and you are patient.


80 posted on 03/23/2022 8:04:54 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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