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To: Bulwyf

Zelensky needs to stop sacrificing his people if he cares. Surrender. It’s the only way to stop it.
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Not entirely so, Vlad invaded because the Ethnic Russians in the break away eastern provinces were being shelled by the Ukies since 2016. The UN recorded 22,000 deaths by Ukraine. The Donbas provinces have been a thorn in the Ukies side for years…..common sense would tell me if they were such a problem, let them have their independence- ditch them- war over….no need to “ surrender “, just let the Donbas have their independence.
The calls for war, war, war, backing the black hats , is getting annoying. Both sides deserve no support. How about calls for peace, peace peace?

Zelensky needs to get negotiating before his entire eastern countryside is turned to a smoking pile of ruble- he is failing his nation, and goading the west to a world war.


77 posted on 03/18/2022 4:35:41 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7
Vlad invaded because the Ethnic Russians in the break away eastern provinces were being shelled by the Ukies since 2016...

Here we go again, another Putin propaganda clerk. Where is your cubicle? St. Petersberg or Moscow?

That particular talking point must be on the whiteboard in every propaganda shop. It is false, and easily refuted by publicly available information.

Artillery exchanges across the Donbass line of contact typically start in Russian separatist controlled territory, and then the Ukrainians fire back. You can read the OSCE reports and see for yourself.

The lie about how many "deaths by Ukraine" were recorded by the UN is another talking point from the whiteboards in St. Petersberg.

How about posting a link to the UN report you are citing?

94 posted on 03/18/2022 5:02:15 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: delta7

Why should the Ukraine give up the Donbass just because the Soviets emigrated a bunch of ethnic Russians there generations before. If their descendants are happier as Russians let them move back. Vlad has a declining population, especially amongst his preferred Russian ethnicity. They’d be welcome and there’s plenty of space for them. Plenty of precedents for that. Heck, after our Revolution plenty of Loyalists fled to Canada. As for the value of the land and resources they’d leave behind call it a down payment on the Russian debt for the Holodomor, etc.


109 posted on 03/18/2022 5:17:14 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris press events are called dodo ops)
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To: delta7

Vlad wants more than Donbas. He wants everything south & east of the Dneiper and most of the Black Sea coast.


130 posted on 03/18/2022 6:39:29 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: delta7

That’s a big issue, that he’s pushing the west to war. We need to avoid that at all costs.


142 posted on 03/18/2022 6:59:29 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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