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Ukraine War: Ukraine Fog of War: What's Really Happening? EP 5
Task and Purpose YouTube channel ^ | Mar 15, 2022 | Chris Capelluto

Posted on 03/16/2022 6:55:46 AM PDT by Widget Jr

The third week of the Russian invasion of Ukraine is covered in the fog of war and that can be confusing. In this episode we investigate some of the Russian claims of victories and advances around the country to avoid falling into a cognitive bias trap. I suggest that we're living in a bubble thanks to the social media platforms that are pushing us more of what we want to see and not what we need to see.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: invasion; putin; russia; ukraine
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Chris Capelluto is a former mechanized infantryman who served in Iraq. He is currently posting videos on the Russian invasion of Ukraine. His perspective is based on his experience as a soldier, and is worth a listen. This is the fifth video (24 min) in the series, and was posted last night.

Outline and my reactions. I am limiting this to what is not said in the U.S. news media, he covers a lot of pro-Ukranian info as well:

  1. Chris address the fog of war and propoganda in social media and mainstream news.
  2. In The U.S. we are seeing only the Ukranian side. Any information showing Russian victories is censored out of fear of being called "pro Russian". Meanwhile in Russia, criticizing the war is punishable by 15 years in prison. Also on March 4 U.S. media shut down Russian media in the U.S.
  3. Russian military victories and what the Russian military is getting right is severely underreported.
  4. The 40 mile long convoy: Still intact. It is defensive positions now. It is also as far foward as it can go without getting into direct combat. Supply convoys stay behind the combat units, they don't work alongside them.
  5. Russia is trying to build a local fuel pipeline right now (good luck hearing that in the MSM).
  6. The Russian army around Kyiv is taking a operational pause. This is normal before and after major combat operations. The news is treating this as if it is proof of the Russian's logistical problems. It is not, the problems are shown elsewhere.
  7. The reason for daylight operations is the Russians lack night vision. Moving during the day makes army eaiser targets. Russia lacks combined arms operations.
  8. Russia logistics and manuvers are such Kyiv will fall by the end of Apirl.
  9. Kharhow will be captured soon, that will allow Russia to take over the Dunbass region.
  10. Freedom of speech gets sacrificed in war, we may be at the point now.

Reaction:

Understanding the reality on the ground is not helped by the U.S. and European news taking the Ukranain side. From the U.S. and NATO view, their operations are incompetent. They are also losing all the way to each one of their objectives and Ukraine has not stopped them.

P.S.

Those 40 mile long convoys even if dispersed are still nice targets for A-10s and F-111s if they weren't retired ten years ago.

1 posted on 03/16/2022 6:55:46 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

Bttt


2 posted on 03/16/2022 7:00:21 AM PDT by Guenevere (When the foundations are being destroyed what can the righteous do t)
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To: Widget Jr

I find it hard to believe the Russians don’t have night vision, 80 year old technology.


3 posted on 03/16/2022 7:01:00 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: skeeter
I find it hard to believe the Russians don’t have night vision, 80 year old technology.

who knows anything really. Like Winston Churchill said, "In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies."

4 posted on 03/16/2022 7:04:13 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitantes)
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To: skeeter

Western reporting on Russia military tactics, capability and resources are laughable on their face.

Never have so many believed such insane nonsense....

Oh wait, I forgot about the Covid vaxx pushers....


5 posted on 03/16/2022 7:05:29 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Widget Jr

Just send the Ukrainians 10 thousand Javalins and 2 million combat rifles plus a billion rounds and the Ukraines will carry on the war themselves. They have 2 million men and women ready to go. Russia can’t do much without tanks in the open plains of Ukraine.


6 posted on 03/16/2022 7:07:04 AM PDT by chopperk
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To: skeeter
RE #3: Their movements over time suggest this is the case.

The U.S. army prefers to move during the night to reduce vulnerability to attack and hide their movements. This requires night vision and good navigation. The Russian army is moving and fighting mostly during the day, and we can be pretty sure their GPS is not working. The lack of sufficient night vision is a reasonable explanation.

7 posted on 03/16/2022 7:12:11 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: skeeter

The Russians have been working on night vision systems for decades. For a while there one could buy Russian surplus night vision systems on ebay. Most of their current tanks have thermal sights of one sort or another. But for some reason their drivers don’t have such tools, and neither do their infantry have personal night vision devices. Nor have they got optics of any kind on their infantry weapons, nor night vision devices on those either.

That’s one of those areas where the Chinese could possibly help them out, as China makes these things by the million for the US market.


8 posted on 03/16/2022 7:12:14 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: Widget Jr
Around Kiev the Ukrainians seem to be pushing the Russians back from some suburbs and infiltrating behind Russian lines to direct artillery or missile fire. The Ukrainians also seem to be mounting at least some counterattacks elsewhere. As long as Kiev is not encircled (and how many troops would the Russians need for that), I can't see it falling.

The Russians seems to be swapping out front line units with new ones, which means they are replacing troops with combat experience with troops having no combat experience.

As far as Kharkov goes, it's hard to tell without knowing the availability of military supplies inside the city and how porous the encirclement is.

Can the Russians grind down the Ukrainians? Probably if they have enough time, but the fighting is taking a much higher toll on the Russian army than anyone expected.

9 posted on 03/16/2022 7:12:16 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To be fair, GPS is a US military system. Their own military systems can’t be integrated with US GPS, in case the US chooses just to lock them out of it somehow. Thats also why they haven’t got anything like JDAMs or other GPS guided weapons. Their bombs are dumb, and their missiles depend on inertial navigation.
Russia supposedly has its own sort-of GPS, I don’t know if it actually works.


10 posted on 03/16/2022 7:15:51 AM PDT by buwaya
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I bought a commercial night vision sight made in Russia at Costco thirty years ago, back when Costco used to carry cool stuff.


11 posted on 03/16/2022 7:16:26 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: pierrem15

Kharkov does not seem to be encircled. The Russians got some columns around Kharkov, but they seem to have withrawn more than a week ago.


12 posted on 03/16/2022 7:17:36 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: cgbg
If it's false, why haven't the Russians won? You are severely discounting the massive corruption in the Russian military and defense industry, lack of logistics and maintenance, the nearly complete lack of training and poor motivation.

All of these factors match the entire history of the Russian and Soviet militaries. You could call it a tradition of professional incompetence. They only time they get good is during a long conflict when they learn the hard way and sufficient resources are allocated.

13 posted on 03/16/2022 7:18:01 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: buwaya

Re: eBay— that would explain why you don’t see Russian army units with night vision: the equipment is stolen and sold.


14 posted on 03/16/2022 7:19:56 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: cgbg

We are ONLY seeing what “they” want/ allow us to see.

Which is all Ukraine’s side of things, So we get a very warped perspective. And the narratives all support the pro Ukraine position to go along with the extremely edited videos we see.

Talk of Russian incompetence, while possible. I believe is largely overstated.

I believe it is plausible that Ukraine has some VERY well trained soldiers, possibly being supported by western spec ops, wearing Ukraine uniforms. And superlative skills and operations are spun as Russian incompetence.

I also believe that as Russia knows the war is being live streamed, they are holding back. Both due to cameras rolling and the inescapable fact they treat Ukrainians as Russian brothers/ cousins.

We buy their perceived weakness and ineptness at our peril.

And I believe the press and factions will sell the “paper tiger” point as a selling point to direct action and regime change.


15 posted on 03/16/2022 7:20:21 AM PDT by uranium penguin
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To: buwaya

I can get GPS positions, with a consumer unit with a reference signal, down to about 10 feet(circular). High-end surveying units can get even closer than that. Might want to rethink your position that the Russians don’t have anything similar to GPS. Of course this could be propaganda, note the date on the webpage:

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Rus-GBU.html


16 posted on 03/16/2022 7:21:32 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (When the kings fight this serfs suffer.)
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To: cgbg

US mass media has not reported on Russian military anything in forever, before this. All this stuff comes from specialist sources, both military and private over many years, as well as any details that leak through in the MSM. Call it open source intelligence.

You do have to be a sort of military enthusiast to pick up on all this.


17 posted on 03/16/2022 7:21:40 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: Widget Jr

I served in Vietnam in ‘68. When I cam home I saw what the news media had done.

I am not buying a word of it. Everything we have been told is a lie. Every opinion being pushed by your favorite ignorant infotainer is bullsh!t.


18 posted on 03/16/2022 7:22:32 AM PDT by Chuckster (Friends don't let friends eat farmed fish)
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To: Widget Jr

I’ve seen a few of this guy’s video analysis. It seems more balanced and objective than what MSM is showing us.

I will say, however, the might of the Russian military has been over estimated. If nothing else, this conflict demonstrates just how advanced the US Military actually is. We are seeing what a military with lots of soldiers and expensive weapons can’t do without the technology and training to coordinate, control and command maneuvers effectively and efficiently. Russia is using ancient tactics with modern weaponry. This approach seems to almost nullify the advantage of the semi modern armament.

It makes me wonder how effective the Chinese military actually is. They tout all the high tech and expensive military equipment. But it has been supposed that they don’t have the training or integration across platforms and units that the west enjoys.


19 posted on 03/16/2022 7:22:52 AM PDT by Tenacious 1
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To: Widget Jr

“In this episode we investigate some of the Russian claims of victories and advances around the country to avoid falling into a cognitive bias trap. I suggest that we’re living in a bubble thanks to the social media platforms that are pushing us more of what we want to see and not what we need to see.”


I don’t care for that opening statement, but since I’ve not seen his pieces prior, I may just take a look this weekend (for ‘balance’, if it proves to be so).


20 posted on 03/16/2022 7:24:34 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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