The definition of winning has already been met for the neocons in DC. A $7B General Dynamics deal with Poland for another 350 Abrams. I put the over under GD tank contacts over the next five years at 5000, etc., etc., etc. Who’s going to going pay for it? Did you shave this morning, that guy. So far, at least, we are using proxies and no American boys are bleeding and dying, yet. If you replace Ukraine with Iraq in your reply, you’ll see where this is heading. The crazy thing is, we were much less restrained than Putin when we brutally overran Iraq twice. Our justification for this 20 year reign of terror, 6000 miles away, Saddam’s phantom yellow cake. The Russians are looking at the last domino to fall that puts these former Warsaw Pact victims on its border, ready to kick in the door, 300 miles from Moscow. Who’s more justified in their actions?
As for Iraq, the US never used the kind of indiscriminate area bombardment the Russians are using.
Perhaps the most important detail: we didn't annex any territory. We didn't even get the oil contracts.
Amazing to see how many here take up the left's talking points in defense of Putin.
Agree, follow the money. The military-industrial complex, NATO, DOD, etc. are far better off now. And Ukraine will see a huge aid package from the West after the world. It will feed the corrupt government. The people of Ukraine and Russia are the losers.