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To: Nextrush
I posted this in another thread and might as well post it here for further discussion.

See this map?



Those RED spots are contiguous land masses. Crimea is a given. Over 90% of Crimeans don't want to be Ukranians. Let them go or let them vote for the world to see.

Stop the fighting and agree to let Luhansk and Donetsk decide whether they want to be part of Ukraine or autonomous.

This is the most practical solution, which will save MOST of Ukraine, and still allow Putin a face-saving way of saying to the Russians: "Mission Accomplished", while also allowing people in regions who don't want to be Ukranians to decide their own fate.

Yugoslavia has done this, So has Czechoslovakia, So has Sudan, and so did Canada ( almost but not quite ).

The alternative is a continuation of the bloodbath.

2 posted on 03/11/2022 8:51:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Too late, the entire southeast is overrun, and about 80,000 Ukrainian troops are locked in a pincer between Donetsk and Crimea.


3 posted on 03/11/2022 8:54:23 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: SeekAndFind

Why didn’t Putin just stop after announcing the annexation of the Donbass and Crimea, and negotiate at that point? Why did he have to invade the rest of Ukraine?


7 posted on 03/11/2022 9:25:25 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: SeekAndFind

Putin had what he wanted in the first 24 hours of the invasion. Then he got greedy and decided to try to take ALL of Ukraine, including installing his own subservient puppet.

If Putin is now willing to roll back his tanks, and allow the current regime to rule then this is a huge capitulation by Putin.

If I were Zelensky, I would take the deal and live for another day. It’s a fair offer by Putin.


21 posted on 03/11/2022 12:18:43 PM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Fauci is a murderer)
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To: SeekAndFind

The 90% figure is meaningless. It comes from the 2014 referendum, where staying in Ukraine was not an option. The two choices were joining Russia and independence.


24 posted on 03/12/2022 1:37:56 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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