Posted on 03/09/2022 3:00:43 PM PST by brownwill6767
Thirty years ago in Moscow the Soviet Union crumbled and everyone watched on CNN.
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Captions Fullscreen Unmute 0 White House issues executive order on cryptocurrency One question was still undecided. This was what would happen to the “Near Abroad” — Russians who were now separated from Russia in independent republics.
President Boris Yeltsin promised that they would have the Russian republic or Federation to look after their interests, language and culture.
Capital One Shopping - Coupons & Savings Ad Ad capitaloneshopping.com Capital One Shopping - Coupons & Savings President Vladimir Putin said nothing about this but rather denounced the Communist Soviet Union as having abandoned Russia.
Ukraine’s existence was part of that end of the Soviet Union, which Putin declares was a grave mistake.
I was in Moscow pursuing a lease to the second largest copper deposit in the world and at the celebration of the birth of the Russian Federation as the prime power in the CIS, or Community of Independent States.
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A young missile commander at my side, over vodka on the roof of a state skyscraper (the tallest building), pointed to the West and told me no Russian would ever look in that direction and see NATO.
Nope. Ban the Russians from everything. SWIFT, the Internet, international flights, enjoying their super yachts, FIFA, Olympics, McDonald’s, and ban them from Free Republic, too.
These sanctions just make people feel good. Especially the pussiefied public. The only thing despots understand is the smoking end of a gun.
You hate Russia too much
“US Sanctions - Strong enough for a Man, but made for a Woman.”
Silly...and wouldn’t work. If Russia is ostracized they’ll just take all of Ukraine and they’ll own the float on oil and wheat. What is the goal of sanctions? They should expressly say the goal so we can ascertain its success. I suspect they won’t
Ban the Russians from everything. SWIFT, the Internet, international flights, enjoying their super yachts, FIFA, Olympics, McDonald’s, and ban them from Free Republic, too....
Deserves repeating.
The Great Depression is too good for them.
Banning Russia from SWIFT will prove to be a big miscalculation and will backfire on the US and we will forfeit our current financial dominance of the world.
“You hate Russia too much”
No, I actually like most of the Russian people. I just hate the gangster scum who always seem to be in charge of Russia. Their corruption flows from the top to the bottom like sewage down a drainpipe.
If Putin gets himself shot sometime soon then I am hopeful that Russia will elect a new leader who will work to bring Russia into the community of nations. My sincere wish is to one day see the average Russian with the same standard of living as anyone in Europe or North America.
That can’t happen so long as the country is led by people who steal and lie their way to success. And don’t think I’m not worried about the USA heading this same direction because I am.
Frankly, I used to like and support Putin because he seemed like the right mix of strongman and democratic leader to help lift Russia out of the stranglehold that its history has upon it. Much like how Peter the Great brought Russia into the modern age by cutting beards and cutting heads. Brutal but necessary and then to the benefit of the Russian people.
Putin’s paranoia and greed caused Russia to turn inward and now it looks like the old Soviet state is back in charge. For now it’s not communist but don’t be surprised if Putin brings that back, too. At least I won’t be.
I’ve been to Russia a few times in the past and nothing has underlined the tragedy of Russian culture and society to me quite like having a painfully beautiful 13-14 year old girl approach me and offer herself to me as a whore. It still breaks my heart to think of her and wonder what ever happened to her. She should have been off studying ballet or simply being a little girl but instead...
And I know it is pathetic and sentimental of me but in that little girl I see all of Russia. I see such beautiful people with so much promise and I just want to see them have hope for a better future and not step back into the darkness of the USSR that Putin says he misses.
But I have no end of hate for anyone who supports making Russia into a place of darkness, fear, secret police, brutality, and conquest. I can only hope that a lot of Russians feel the same way I do about their country.
Russia did not hatch this Ukraine situation without years of planning. And, they’ve planned meticulously.
They have been stacking - accumulating gold reserves.
Russia WANTS OUT of SWIFT. SWIFT is fractional-reserve Deep State Cabal, 13-family + Rothschilds Central Bankstering.
On the financial side, good for Russia. I can only hope that the US can soon *swiftly* abandon SWIFT as well.
In the meantime, all the wrong people (from Soros to Greta) and entities (MSM, DNC, GOPe) are gung ho for Ukraine as a nation. Plus, a great number of regular people, along for the ride.
Banning Russia from SWIFT puts them in same category as Iran and NK.
They just need to think it through and be consistent in how these penalties are applied. With this mob in control of WH I have little confidence they know what they are doing
“What is the goal of sanctions?”
To make the cost of keeping Ukraine more than the cost of letting it go.
Twenty years ago or more it might have worked. Now Russia and the rest of the BRICs will just stop dealing in dollars. It doesn’t hurt anybody but us long term and Ukraine simply isn’t worth that or any loss.
“Twenty years ago or more it might have worked.”
Quite the opposite, really. Twenty years ago the Russian economy was less integrated with the West than it is now. Now it is a source of pain and the pain is great enough that Putin is whining about it and making impotent threats at us for refusing to do business with him.
Putin did not go to war thinking there would be no responses. From his point of view, the west depends on Russian exports as much as the Russian economy takes our money. The economic pain goes both ways and may end up hurting everyone else more than Russia.
I wasn’t talking about Russia, I was referring to China. They have enough money now to replace us in many things. Russia already has new payment systems stood up by China and have Chines credit cards stood up to replace Visa and Mastercard. The Chinese have signed a massive natural gas deal with them, they may not even want to sell to Europe anymore. The pain for Russia will be short term but the loss for us will be very long term and could lead to the dollar losing its reserve currency status. It didn’t help any that six years of the Clinton Russia hoax pushed Putin into a strong relationship with China either. Ray Charles could have seen these things coming if we got too stupid with the sanctions but Biden and his crew couldn’t.
China isn’t going to get into this thing with Russia. They’re even more vulnerable to sanctions than Russia is. They have an export economy and if exports end they’ll have a good five to six hundred million angry, hungry, unemployed people to deal with.
The things I mentioned are already done. Just watch and see what happens. Our gubmint is stupid as hell.
The policies that you advocate are damaging the American economy, increasing prices in America, and driving Russia further and further to China.
Slippery slope. Look what was done to the Canadian truckers.
Not a fan of the Russian leadership. Horrible. But that can be used against any uprising.
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