US conclusively rejects 'high risk' Polish jet transfer to Ukraine

Times Of Israel ^ | 3/9/2022 | AP

[Nextrush]

If Donald Trump were POTUS we would not have gotten to this point with Biden so weak and impotent.

All this woke drama for Ukraine covers the real national defense weakness of Joe Biden.

Can't openly send fighter jets to held Ukraine.

What does this mean for Taiwan?

[bgill]

This is what you get when the leader of the (once) most powerful nation on earth runs through the WH swinging a diaper around while looking for his pudding pop.

[fastrock]

I believe the Polish gov’t said no to the US State Dept.

[fruser1]

We obviously need a distinct department of offence.

DoD is too worried about hurting the feelings of queers.

[alternatives?]

I guess Blinken’s “green light” from Sunday is off the table. Poland called his bluff.

[traderrob6]

Didn’t Blinken just this past weekend offer assurances that the US was “totally supportive” of the Poles giving fighter jets to the Ukrainians?

[PGR88]

This is bizarre - The waxworks Blinken was on the Sunday Morning news shows saying it was a done deal.

Clown Show.

[packagingguy]

This story has changed in so many ways who knows what the truth is? First Washington wanted Poles to send planes, Poles said no. Then Poles want to send planes and Washington said no.

[Lysandru]

Exactly—this a Clown Show. There is no excuse for the U.S. to not be publicly in sync with Poland (even if they are arguing in private). None of this inspires confidence.

[Born in 1950]

Way to play the deep state, brothers!

[Zhang Fei]

Meanwhile, within living memory:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_in_the_Korean_War
https://www.rbth.com/history/332396-how-soviets-fought-against-americans

Throughout the war, Moscow provided Hanoi with 95 S-75 air defense missile systems, over 500 airplanes, 120 helicopters, more than 5,000 anti-aircraft guns and 2,000 tanks. In addition, more than 10,000 Soviet military specialists were dispatched to Vietnam: from missile crews, pilots and signalmen to tank crews and doctors.

A special role was also played by Soviet anti-aircraft gunners. They not only trained Vietnamese People’s Army (VPA) personnel, but also took part in fighting themselves. It is in no small degree thanks to them that the U.S. Air Force and Navy, having lost more than 4,000 aircraft, failed to suppress North Vietnam's air defenses and defeat the country.

Rim Kazakov, a guidance systems officer with the 274th Surface-to-Air Missile Regiment of the VPA: “To give credit to our Vietnamese comrades, they successfully mastered the weaponry entrusted to them and were always by our side. In addition to taking part in actual combat with missile crews, we - having learnt some basic Vietnamese - regularly conducted training using simulation equipment. We overcame the psychological barrier of the first launches together: I pushed the ‘Start’ button and the Vietnamese guidance systems officer only pushed it already after the launch, sometimes probably not even suspecting it.”

[Toespi]

I can not believe that the US, with all of the sophistication, intelligence, weaponry can not find some way to end this nightmare in Ukraine and the world. Essentially, the United States is being held hostage by Putin. The maternity hospital bombing should be the red line Russia just crossed.

[Nextrush]

They wanted Poland to hold the poop bag without the bag risk Russian attack but the Poles called their bluff by offering to send the jets to the US to send into Ukraine.

[pierrem15]

Headline should be:

"Biden admin revealed to be big mouth cowards."

They expected the Poles too take all the heat, and then if Russia rocketed the airbase, would have accused the Poles of "provoking" them.

The Poles well remember that allied guarantees against Hitler and Stalin were worthless. Seems Zelenskyy realizes that a Ukrainian "government in exile" would suffer the same fate as the WWII Polish government in London.

[discostu]

Sure. The POLES giving jet to Ukraine. Once they transferred them to an American base it stopped being the Poles. Really they probably should have left them fueled and “forgot” to lock up the field. Oops, damned Ukrainians stole all our Migs.

[dila813]

called it, knew it was the US Blocking it

[newzjunkey]

I swear Blinkin was just on TV the other day saying that we would backfill for Poland if they sent planes meaning we would use them as a cut out in a proxy war with Russia over Ukraine. Why the very public change in our tune?

[Little Ray]

They sold us the MiG-29s and said “You do it.”

[Jim Noble]

There has been zero chance of a US defense of Taiwan since 1983.

Taiwan believes what they want to believe about a US rescue - so does Israel, so did Ukraine.

But no defenses have been offered and none will be.

[Zhang Fei]

[called it, knew it was the US Blocking it]

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!@$!#$ Biden, as usual.