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Poland Supplies MiG29s to Ukraine
Polish Foreign Ministry ^ | 03/08/2022 | Polish Foreign Ministry

Posted on 03/08/2022 11:10:58 AM PST by pierrem15

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To: JoSixChip

Go to Walgreens and buy some calcium - for your spine.


121 posted on 03/08/2022 11:54:37 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas (Whenever a Russian soldier is killed, an Angel gets its wings)
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To: JoSixChip

Now Jennifer Griffen reporting this report is not accurate. Saying it’s an offer from Poland but that’s it at this point. Claims the story is being repeated by Russian sources.


122 posted on 03/08/2022 11:55:03 AM PST by moehoward (.)
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To: Kevmo

Ukraine fusion is right around the corner, so what’s the big deal?


123 posted on 03/08/2022 11:55:37 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Zhang Fei
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USA rotary-wing 5,195+ (which include not in addition to the above statistics)[2]
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124 posted on 03/08/2022 11:56:03 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save U + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: pierrem15

Getting rid of its Russian planes to make room for new American jets.


125 posted on 03/08/2022 11:56:08 AM PST by Mr. Blond
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To: DIRTYSECRET
They're upgraded, which may be a problem for Ukrainian pilots. May also use US/NATO missiles.

I suspect Flight Lieutenant Kowalski, no longer needed by the Polish Air Force may become Flight Lieutenant Kowalskyy of the Ukrainian Air Force.

126 posted on 03/08/2022 11:56:09 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Smogger
The answer is the Ukranians first and Europe second using small tactical weapons. Maybe one or two.

We are obligated to respond fully to any attack on a NATO country per the agreement.
127 posted on 03/08/2022 11:56:15 AM PST by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

The Polish Mig-29s are significantly updated from the Ukraine aircraft and probably will need some equipment removed (which the UAF isn’t trained on).


128 posted on 03/08/2022 11:56:31 AM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: JoSixChip
They are not starting it, WE ARE! This is an in-your-face ACT OF WAR.

No, it isn't. Russia could technically declare us a belligerent and start attacking us, but countries have been supplying other countries at war with weapons for decades without ever themselves getting involved in shooting each other. To pretend otherwise is to ignore pretty much the last 70 years of world history.

129 posted on 03/08/2022 11:56:31 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: LegendHasIt

“I was hoping this was more fake news, but apparently it is for real.”

The offer is real from Poland. The pentagon is denying there is a deal according to Jennifer Griffen on FOX.


130 posted on 03/08/2022 11:56:47 AM PST by moehoward (.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

The way I see it, it’s no different than Russia supplying North Vietnam with all those SAM’s that shot down our pilots.


131 posted on 03/08/2022 11:57:35 AM PST by Windcatcher (Time to fly the other black flag -- one of no quarter for Marxists.)
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To: moehoward
FOX reported yesterday (I believe it was Keane) that the majority of the Ukraine air power was intact. So why even broadcast this deal?

This is the most censored war in history that we aren't a participant of so it's hard to tell what's what.

Near as I can tell the Ukrainians are winning based on sheer moxy, but they are also losing unless they get a No-Fly Zone, Migs, additional weapons, etc.

I have had to turn to twitter and just follow every Ukrainian and Russia propaganda arm, city by city, just to get a better perspective of what's going on.

132 posted on 03/08/2022 11:57:35 AM PST by Smogger
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To: moehoward

They’re calling Blinken’s bluff and getting the Germans involved. Still clever on their part.


133 posted on 03/08/2022 11:57:36 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: moehoward
Now Jennifer Griffen reporting this report is not accurate. Saying it’s an offer from Poland but that’s it at this point.

Thank God, I hope that's the case. My blood pressure is about to go ballistic.
134 posted on 03/08/2022 11:57:37 AM PST by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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To: alternatives?

That was talk. This was action. BIG difference.


135 posted on 03/08/2022 11:58:52 AM PST by Whatever Works
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To: pierrem15

Well if you get the Poles in there it will multiply.


136 posted on 03/08/2022 11:59:17 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: BiglyCommentary

A forgotten part of history is that Poland defeated the Red Army in 1920-21 when Lenin tried to spread Communism to Western Europe. The Reds were winning for over a year and then in one final battle the Poles slammed the Soviet Army. Lenin gave up those plans.


137 posted on 03/08/2022 11:59:19 AM PST by Calvin Cooledge
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To: DarthVader

Northrup Grumman and Boeing beaming at this. Obsolescence and replacement business.


138 posted on 03/08/2022 11:59:29 AM PST by blackdog ("Hey there congress, you's is some real 10-ply.")
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To: JoSixChip

They are not starting it, WE ARE! This is an in-your-face ACT OF WAR.
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Exactly. The war can be de- escalated overnight. To the table for negotiations.1) Putin has given his demands for leaving. Basically enforcement of the Minsk agreement, which Zelensky and the US walked out on, and never enforced. 2) Zelensky can call for negotiations on the Minsk agreement that was signed by Ukraine back in 2014. 3) The US can demand negotiations ( or withdraw support for Ukraine). None of the three are white hats- all corrupted. Support none of them.


139 posted on 03/08/2022 11:59:35 AM PST by delta7
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To: pierrem15

Russia and China provided military aid to N. Vietnam from 1962 to 1975.

Just saying.

5.56mm


140 posted on 03/08/2022 11:59:37 AM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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