Posted on 03/07/2022 12:42:47 PM PST by xzins
Seven years after Russia annexed Crimea and created an armed separatist movement in Donbas, the industrial eastern hub of eastern Ukraine, the Ukrainian government, and its entire business class, is mired in problems so deep it is a wonder they can ever dig themselves out of it.
(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...
Then something happened on the way to the covid hearing...
Ukraine become knights in shining armor
Privat Bank, etc. How the world has changed when Freepers throw in with Hunter and Joe Biden, Google, Facebook, Obama, the Clintons, James Clapper, the Democrat party, the MSM, Lindsay Graham, Mittens and others, who all love Zelinski. Why, one could ask.
Privat Bank, etc. How the world has changed when Freepers throw in with Hunter and Joe Biden, Google, Facebook, Obama, the Clintons, James Clapper, the Democrat party, the MSM, Lindsay Graham, Mittens and others, who all love Zelinski. Why, one could ask.
And if you don’t... “see! You were in on the collusion with Putin and his boy-toy Trump”
And if you don’t... “see!, this is who you are in collusion with Mr. TiGuy22
And as a Freeper???
After the media lied everyday for years about anything COVID how am I to believe any media report? The basic fact is that no one knows what the hell is going on in Ukraine. The propaganda on both sides is very thicccck.
Interesting to see the establishment take on zelensky and Ukraine before they were canonized
Very interesting, bookmark.
I agree. Putin is a murderer and thug; Ukraine is a cesspool of corruption and money laundering.
And Conservatives and Freepers alike are jumping in on the Ukraine side with both feet without a care in the world. Look at who is behind Zelinski and how the media (Most Effective Devil in America) bloodlust makes thirst for escalation. No conspiracies but no coincidences.
Agreed.
IMHO, in the end, this whole episode of one authoritarian kleptocracy chewing up pieces of the smaller nominally “democratic” kleptocracy next door and its outcome will have little impact on vital US national security interests. Today’s authoritarian Russia is not the monolithic global threat of yesteryear’s communist USSR. Although it is a regional threat to Europe, which eventually will have stop depending on the US for its land war defense and grow up, increase their defense spending and raise a real non woke military for land war defense and buy armaments from the US to defend themselves from regional threat Russia. After this Ukraine episode is over, the best way to accelerate that process of getting continental Europe with 4 times the GDP and 4 times the population of Russia to defend itself within a certain amount of time is to tell them we will be withdrawing from NATO within 2 years in favor of just maintaining a non continental European alliance with the 5 eyes, UK, NZ, Australia, Canada and US that more suits US security interests. Hopefully, that will build a fire under them. If not, it’s their problem, not ours.
The US should withdraw from NATO now. You tend to have steel balls when your partner has soldiers that are 10 feet tall and bombs that don’t miss their target. If we were to commit to withdrawal from NATO, Zelinsky would stop asking for a No-Fly zone and there would be a negotiated peace much more rapidly. As it is, we are on the precipice of escalation with an opponent with plenty of canned sunshine.
Neo Nazi ping
Propaganda thick it is. One way to cut through it is to remember they think you’re stoopit and then look to see if Hunter and Joe Biden, Google, Facebook, Obama, the Clintons, James Clapper, the Democrat party, the MSM, Lindsay Graham and Mittens are all aligned, and then pic it apart one piece at a time.
Huh? We would not be in this position if the US were energy independent. Biden purposefully put the US in this position which is now helping to finance Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. If we were energy independent the US would have so many more options. Oh, if the West refuses to buy Russia’s oil, China gets to buy the oil at a discount.
Biden’s energy and spending policies put the US in a very precarious position. If you want to support Russia’s/China’s side, go for it. I support America’s interests only. Right now, all you have to do is reverse everything Biden has done and the US would be on the road to recovery.
Agree
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