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Biden’s CIA Director Doesn’t Believe Biden’s Story about Ukraine
peter beinart on substack ^ | 02/07/2022 | Peter Beinart

Posted on 03/04/2022 5:17:14 PM PST by Glad2bnuts

To hear the Biden administration tell it, the Ukraine crisis is the product of one man: Vladimir Putin. Putin fears that if Ukraine joins NATO and becomes a pro-Western democracy, Russians will want the same for themselves and thus rise up against his tyrannical rule. The idea that Russians genuinely think NATO poses a security threat is transparent bunk.

The Biden narrative isn’t entirely false. Putin surely does fear that a democratic, pro-Western Ukraine could inspire popular uprisings in his country. But it is partially false because it suggests that were Putin not in power, Russia’s government would have no problem with Ukraine joining NATO. And it implies that the US bears no responsibility for the current standoff. According to Bill Burns, Biden’s own CIA Director, neither of those claims are true.

(Excerpt) Read more at peterbeinart.substack.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: biden; billburns; putin; putinsbuttboys; russia; ukraine
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This sums it up quite nicely. The entire Russia/Ukraine event was teed up, and maneuvered a reaction from Russia. The reason? Biden sucks as a human being and President, and what brings up numbers better than a War President?
1 posted on 03/04/2022 5:17:14 PM PST by Glad2bnuts
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To: Glad2bnuts

https://www.theepochtimes.com/before-russias-invasion-of-ukraine-a-decade-of-destabilization_4316990.html/?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=TheLibertyDaily


2 posted on 03/04/2022 5:18:47 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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From above Epoch times, an excerpt.

“The deterioration in our relations with Russia, in many ways started with President George W. Bush in 2008 when he dangled before Ukraine the promise of NATO membership during the Bucharest declaration, boldly claiming, “We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO.”

The promise of NATO membership for Ukraine was something that has never been taken lightly by Russia, which has remained resolutely opposed to any NATO expansion along its borders.

In 1990, U.S. Secretary of State James Baker and German Foreign Minister Hans-Dietrich Genscher had promised the Kremlin not to expand NATO eastwards in return for German unification. However, in the decades that followed this promise, NATO incorporated 14 additional Eastern European countries.

In his 2020 memoir, Joe Biden’s current CIA director, Bill Burns, explicitly warned about the dangers posed by Ukraine gaining NATO membership, citing his own words in 2008 to then-Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice: “Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). ​” “


3 posted on 03/04/2022 5:22:25 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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“The promise of NATO membership for Ukraine was something that has never been taken lightly by Russia, which has remained resolutely opposed to any NATO expansion along its borders.”

This may be true, but it is important to understand why.

They don’t want Ukraine in NATO as Russia wants to be able to send it troops whenever Ukraine gets out of line.

There concern is that they might lose it as a Russian colony.


4 posted on 03/04/2022 5:29:33 PM PST by Renfrew
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Oh please, DO NOT POST THIS as that will anger the Biden-istas here.


5 posted on 03/04/2022 5:31:08 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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“The promise of NATO membership for Ukraine was something that has never been taken lightly by Russia, which has remained resolutely opposed to any NATO expansion along its borders.”

Look what we did in 1917 just based on a Telegram from Germany to Mexico.

6 posted on 03/04/2022 5:33:17 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Glad2bnuts

The article also says Trump screwed up by pulling out of the Iran deal so I wonder….


7 posted on 03/04/2022 5:33:20 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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LOL Bidenistas? On FR? Why are they here?


8 posted on 03/04/2022 5:35:33 PM PST by madison10
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“LOL Bidenistas? On FR? Why are they here?”

If they’re going to call anyone disagreeing with the CNN propaganda and outright lies about the war ‘Putinistas’, I’ll just point out who they are siding with.


9 posted on 03/04/2022 5:38:11 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Glad2bnuts

Takes everybody off death shots and masks.

Libs believe in constant fear, it’s what they do.


10 posted on 03/04/2022 5:39:39 PM PST by eyedigress (Trump is my President! )
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Well.

Who woulda thought Biden would do such a thing!

I am shocked, yes, shocked.

Not that he sucks as prez, not that he would do such a thing, but that grown persons with brains would fall for it.

11 posted on 03/04/2022 5:45:00 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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Biden’s energy policy caused this


12 posted on 03/04/2022 5:45:42 PM PST by yldstrk (Bingo! We have a winner!)
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“They don’t want Ukraine in NATO as Russia wants to be able to send it troops whenever Ukraine gets out of line.”

Consider that several times in US history we have sent troops into Mexico. The next President may have to do so in order to wipe out the cartels so the rampant drug trafficking and human smuggling into the United States can be eliminated.

Israel frequently invades neighboring countries for security reasons. China has sent troops into neighboring Vietnam, India, and Tibet.

Notice we are speaking of countries intervening in neighboring nations. What other country other than the United Staes in recent years has invaded countries on the other side of the planet? Do we have the moral authority to demand Russia leave neighboring Ukraine when we have conducted war and military operations in countries all over the globe?


13 posted on 03/04/2022 5:52:45 PM PST by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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To: BobL

Guess I am a Putinista. Not much is passing the smell test.


14 posted on 03/04/2022 5:53:46 PM PST by madison10
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To: Glad2bnuts
what brings up numbers better than a War President?

One with a living population?

15 posted on 03/04/2022 5:55:04 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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“Guess I am a Putinista. Not much is passing the smell test.”

LOL, I wouldn’t have coined the term Bidenista here if people weren’t calling us Putinistas.


16 posted on 03/04/2022 5:55:18 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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“Do we have the moral authority to demand Russia leave neighboring Ukraine when we have conducted war and military operations in countries all over the globe?”

We do. For 70 years the world has mostly been at peace. That is because there has been one big dog to keep everyone else in line. Other countries complain, but every nation from China to Cuba has benefited from the Pax Americana and will be sorry when it is gone.


17 posted on 03/04/2022 5:59:52 PM PST by Renfrew
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U.S. Bears zero responsibility n

Maybe corrupt politicians and non elected Presidents do.

But this is a skirmish in a European backwater between basket case countries manipulated by larger big money powers.

Nothing to do with the U.S.


18 posted on 03/04/2022 6:12:14 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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OK here’s my plan. Off Putin with a drone and tell whoever surfaces as the boss that Russia can join NATO so it’s all of us against China. the real threat to us all. Give the oligarchs amnesty if they go along. Europe is quiet after that.

Works in the schoolyard.


19 posted on 03/04/2022 7:02:03 PM PST by JeanLM
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Exactly, the article says this is just like Trump forcing Iran to turn to hard liners because he rejected the Iran deal. Any of you remember Iran being moderate prior to that?

And the discussion of an article accusing Israel of apartheid.


20 posted on 03/04/2022 7:17:57 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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