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To: Bloodandgravy

Don’t like the guy, but...

He has a couple of valid points

The airspace does belong to Ukraine.

We should not fall for Putin’s bluff about nuclear weapons. It would mean the end of Russia and Putin’s ambitions to reestablish the Soviet Union.

Failing to act opens up more areas/countries that Putin could set his sights on, and then, we could be bluffed on those countries too.

Putin’s exploits need to end, otherwise, we’d be doing this takeover-and-bluff for many more years.


18 posted on 03/03/2022 1:19:25 PM PST by adorno
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To: adorno

I’m so sure the Japanese cared who owned the airspace over Pearl Harbor in 1941.


31 posted on 03/03/2022 1:23:57 PM PST by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: adorno

Trump didn’t fall for Pootin’s bluff. Anyplace. In fact Trump took out the Russky Spec Ops guys in Syria just to make his point. Pooty stayed polite for four years. That’s the exact difference. Some air cover and SAM defence in the UKE would shut this nonsense down before the next day is over. I’m not sure yet who’s going to give Bidumdum a proper head jerk but it has to happen.


64 posted on 03/03/2022 1:41:34 PM PST by OldWarBaby
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To: adorno
The airspace does belong to Ukraine.

Nothing belongs to you unless you are strong enough to defend it. The wolf is always at the door.

Ask the American Indians.

Failing to act opens up more areas/countries that Putin could set his sights on.

Agreed, those countries should take steps now to ensure their strength is so vast that the wolf Putin would never consider it.

66 posted on 03/03/2022 1:43:54 PM PST by usurper
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To: adorno

“The airspace does belong to Ukraine.”

Well, it depends. If you mean “de jure”, sure the airspace belongs to Ukraine. If they can’t defend it, then “de facto” it does not.


78 posted on 03/03/2022 1:52:16 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: adorno
The airspace does belong to Ukraine.

No one in the current Socialist Democrat regime has any say about airspace, ground space, borders, and autonomy. They're actively aiding an invasion across our borders.

90 posted on 03/03/2022 2:02:19 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: adorno
We should not fall for Putin’s bluff about nuclear weapons. It would mean the end of Russia and Putin’s ambitions to reestablish the Soviet Union.

Was wondering if Putin is boxed in and decided to launch ONE tactical nuke to Estonia (destroying 82nd airborne), Berlin, or Ramstein Air Base, what should we do?

Just one nuke and then doesn't say anything except, "I warned you to not interfere. So don't interfere in Ukraine and don't allow Baltics or Ukraine to join NATO. Because I will consider it a threat and any country that engages Russian forces, supplies our enemies are enemies of Russia"

What do you think we'll do?

Then what do you thing they'd do?

Lots of people want NATO to attack, kill or destroy Putin, what are they willing and who are they willing to kill in order to do that?

Anybody want to offer their sons or grandsons to defend Ukrainian democracy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj9_Cq65Bqw

139 posted on 03/03/2022 7:04:32 PM PST by Dick Vomer (2 Timothy 4:7 deo duce ferro comitantes)
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