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Teen, 18, is charged with first-degree murder for shooting dead father-of-two who walked over to his car and hit him in face through his window during road rage attack
UK Daily Mail ^ | 3/2/2022 | Alastair Talbot

Posted on 03/03/2022 3:31:12 AM PST by fruser1

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To: HollyB

“I’m not understanding how this isn’t self defense.”

As Blennos said, this happened in Glendale Heights, Illinois, a suburb of Chicago.

I don’t even drive through Illinois because I carry.


21 posted on 03/03/2022 5:24:10 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: fruser1

Looks like Madison had anger and control issues. I based it on the fact that he stopped what he was doing and chased down the guy that ended up shooting him.


22 posted on 03/03/2022 5:24:33 AM PST by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: moovova

I’ve watched crash videos for years. But I’ve noticed a shift in their content the last couple of years. That is, more and more, I noticed the person with a camera is recording that they got cut off in traffic or something like that.

I made the comment on one of the videos that I think they need to rename those videos. Instead of calling them crash videos, they should call them “Karen’s with dash cams.”


23 posted on 03/03/2022 5:28:35 AM PST by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: fruser1

after watching the video... that doesn’t really look like him hitting the guy in the car, more like him reaching in? he might have been trying to grab the gun which had already been pulled on him.


24 posted on 03/03/2022 5:29:17 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: fruser1
I think the man who was shot was very foolish for escalating it into what he did, but the Kid was absolutely wrong in shooting him. He should have held up the gun and asked the man if he really wanted to f*** with him.
25 posted on 03/03/2022 5:40:17 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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First Degree Murder?

The only charge should be unlawful possession of a handgun. Because Mejia is under 21 and without a conceal carry license, he shouldn’t have had the gun.

But, since Mattison is the aggressor and clearly reaches into Mejia’s car and commits an assault/battery, then there is no way this is first degree murder.

The incident doesn’t even rate a charge involuntary manslaghter . . .


26 posted on 03/03/2022 5:40:59 AM PST by MCSETots
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“Teen, 18, is charged with first-degree murder for shooting dead father-of-two who walked over to his car and hit him in face through his window during road rage attack”

Well we already know that shooting a guy who has hit you in the face is murder because that's what they decided when that piece of sh*t Ahmed Arbery punched that guy in the face and tried to take his gun.

27 posted on 03/03/2022 5:41:46 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: cuban leaf
Looks like Madison had anger and control issues. I based it on the fact that he stopped what he was doing and chased down the guy that ended up shooting him.

That was my thinking as well. Looking at his picture, he looks like someone who thinks he's tough and can push people around.

Still, I think the kid should have showed him the handgun as he walked up and that might have saved everyone some grief.

I'd convict on manslaughter, but not first degree.

28 posted on 03/03/2022 5:44:53 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: fruser1

People backing in to parking spots... take up two lanes of traffic while you maneuver...


29 posted on 03/03/2022 5:46:47 AM PST by Chauncey Gardiner
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To: fruser1

In Texas, If the kid couldn’t retreat, ie. was trapped in traffic, then he had the right to use deadly force. The assailant was a deadly threat. Period!


30 posted on 03/03/2022 5:46:48 AM PST by TexasPaul (TexasPaul)
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To: fruser1
Very poorly written article, in the first place.

I recall Miss W, in 10th grade journalism class, teaching us on the first day of school that the first sentence lays the pretext for the entire article.

"Dave Smith is charged with murder for allegedly (always say allegedly, too) shooting Mike Jones, who allegedly assaulted him through his car window.

Blah blah blah for the details.

31 posted on 03/03/2022 5:52:21 AM PST by OKSooner (No blood for a fake President.)
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Teen, 18, is charged with first-degree murder for shooting dead father-of-two who walked over to his car and hit him in face through his window during road rage attack
Worse, I think our jorno grad geniuses are telling us that the father-of-two walked up to his own car and hit himself in the face.
32 posted on 03/03/2022 6:10:05 AM PST by nicollo
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... the quarrel between both men started when Mattison, of Glendale Heights, was trying to back his pickup truck into his driveway. Mejia pulled up in a white Ford sedan and went around Mattison instead of letting him finish pulling in, the prosecutor added.
This happens to me about 3 times a month at my house. It gets fun when the impatient ahole nearly runs into the car parked across the street while swerving when my truck suddenly stops (for some reason). But I never thought about chasing him down and punching him in the face. Interesting.
33 posted on 03/03/2022 6:13:35 AM PST by nicollo
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While I don’t doubt he “struck” him in the face, but after watching the video, its pretty clear that was at most a little slap...

Shouldn’t have done it, but hard to make an argument for lethal response.

If this guy was so much in fear for his life from that, he’s a coward. Just like that idiot who murdered that man in FL over an argument regarding where the car was parked in that convenience store.

This guys very likely going to jail, and rightfully so.


34 posted on 03/03/2022 6:14:55 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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Watch the video, not defending the man who got shot, but he didn’t “punch” anyone... no doubt he did strike him, but hardly was it a “punch”.

Certainly nothing in that video justifies a lethal response, if this guy was fearing for his life over this, he’s a coward.


35 posted on 03/03/2022 6:16:51 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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...causing Mejia to break off...

Huh? Even "brake off" doesn't really make sense.

36 posted on 03/03/2022 6:17:52 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: HollyB

Only because of where it happened. Deep Blue State.


37 posted on 03/03/2022 6:24:45 AM PST by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: HollyB

Only because of where it happened. Deep Blue State.


38 posted on 03/03/2022 6:26:26 AM PST by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: fruser1

In a sane world this would be self-defense, but we no longer live in a sane world.


39 posted on 03/03/2022 6:37:12 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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“Karen’s with dash cams.”

That’s funny...and exactly right. I’ve learned a lot of lessons watching crash videos....and found myself trying to guess where the “instigator” would come from in those videos. LOL...I’ve also learned some Russian profanity (those were the first crash videos I started watching).


40 posted on 03/03/2022 6:47:07 AM PST by moovova
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