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How Might the War in Ukraine End? Five Factors Will Shape the Outcome
WSJ ^ | 02-MAR-2022 | Stephen Fidler

Posted on 03/02/2022 9:53:54 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas

Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine isn’t going as planned so far, according to military strategists, with Russia facing tougher armed resistance than expected and harsh Western sanctions.

That raises the question, what next?

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; russia; russianaggression
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"Western military analysts have expressed shock at how badly Russia’s forces performed during the early days of the invasion. They had expected that a military that had been modernized over more than a decade would quell the first phase of Ukrainian resistance fairly easily."

"“We’ve all been astonished that this new Russian army looks like the old Red Army—not very well trained, not very well commanded, with really quite poor logistics—which implies either a big failure of planning or…a big underestimation of the enemy,” said Mr. Clarke, the former director of the Royal United Services Institute."

"If a strong insurgency materializes, Russia might need to devote many more troops to battle it. Expert estimates for how many troops would be needed to control and occupy a rebellious Ukraine number upward of 500,000. “Putin doesn’t have that, and he will run out people, and it will turn into a Soviet-Afghanistan redux,” said Gen. Shirreff."

1 posted on 03/02/2022 9:53:54 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Russia runs out of money to fund it in about 5 days.


2 posted on 03/02/2022 9:55:21 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (The kernel of our firm's job is to go with lots. - tnlibertarian job offer letter)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

As long as the West sends weapons, the Ukrainians will keep fighting, until the Russian leave.


3 posted on 03/02/2022 9:56:03 AM PST by tlozo
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Putin will demand the Ukrainian government embrace neutrality, and try to install some pro-Russian leadership. He is not going to try to occupy Ukraine.


4 posted on 03/02/2022 9:56:03 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Who knew tanks are going the way of battleships.

Russia didn’t.


5 posted on 03/02/2022 9:57:14 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Ukraine will fall completely within the month.

Putin will then move to the next target. He’s been fighting Ukraine ‘lightly’ compared to the devastation he’s capable of unleashing.

If we are in Revelation time, Turkey is on the list to fall and that’ll trigger NATO’s involvement.

Look also for China to make a move on Taiwan while the west is distracted and when President Harris is in office by next year.


6 posted on 03/02/2022 9:57:43 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

I see Turkey actually rising and Russia falling.


7 posted on 03/02/2022 9:58:22 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: TigerClaws
Ukraine will fall completely within the month.

I haven't seen anything that would convince me otherwise.

8 posted on 03/02/2022 9:59:07 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: SpeedyInTexas

A Russian coup or assassination of Putin.


9 posted on 03/02/2022 9:59:11 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters (Remember the 2020 backstabbers. No more RINOs ever!)
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To: Fido969

“Putin will demand the Ukrainian government embrace neutrality, and try to install some pro-Russian leadership”

Yes, of course Putin will demand that.

No puppet government can last unless Russian troops occupy the country.

The puppet government will fall within days of Russian troops pulling out. Whoever “volunteers” to be the president under the puppet government is signing up for suicide.


10 posted on 03/02/2022 9:59:55 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas (Whenever a Russian soldier is killed, an Angel gets its wings)
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To: SpeedyInTexas
Pray for this one:

Putin gets frustrated with the lack of progress and orders a nuclear strike (more likely Poland than Ukraine).

His Generals refuse and the Politburo convinces Putin to step down (one way or the other).

Those taking control of Russia recall the troops and negotiate some settlement with Ukraine.

11 posted on 03/02/2022 10:00:01 AM PST by G Larry (Tolerance will rise until intelligent people are banned from thinking to avoid offending imbeciles)
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The Russian MoD says that the Russian military has sustained 498 killed in action and 1,597 wounded in action in Ukraine so far

The first time they have announced numbers

Perhaps they picked a number for the purpose of seeing how people in Russia react to it

Or if there is a basis for it, perhaps these are the total number of bodies recovered by the Russian military so far


12 posted on 03/02/2022 10:00:01 AM PST by Meet the New Boss (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: ArcadeQuarters
A Russian coup or assassination of Putin.

Assassinating Putin is tough, he sits 30 feet away from everybody else. :)

13 posted on 03/02/2022 10:01:42 AM PST by tlozo
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To: TigerClaws

“compared to the devastation he’s capable of unleashing.”

If he orders that his own people will have hanging by piano wire in Red Square.


14 posted on 03/02/2022 10:01:57 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: TigerClaws

I think China has gotten a big wake up call.

Russian tanks just rolled over the border and are being chewed up. Supply convoys are easily being destroyed.

China has to send tanks 95 miles across the water. Supply convoys 95 miles!

Impossible against a determined Taiwan military.


15 posted on 03/02/2022 10:02:18 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas (Whenever a Russian soldier is killed, an Angel gets its wings)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

As in previous ventures, Russia depended on winning, before it started. What’s happened is pretty much fatal to their chances of victory.


16 posted on 03/02/2022 10:02:22 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: meatloaf

“Who knew tanks are going the way of battleships.”

I didn’t realize it either. But with drones and ATGM, they aren’t what they use to be.


17 posted on 03/02/2022 10:03:20 AM PST by SpeedyInTexas (Whenever a Russian soldier is killed, an Angel gets its wings)
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To: tlozo

The max range of those KGB poison dart firing canes must be 25 feet.


18 posted on 03/02/2022 10:03:21 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: 1Old Pro

Yes..and then what is Putin’s end game?

He hasn’t thought about that. A violent 10 year insurgency?

He can’t stay in Ukraine. When they leave we send in better weapons to hit Russia the next time they get stupid.

long range rocket artillery kill staging areas and Harpoon ship killers to drive Russian Navy out of Crimea/Sevestapol.


19 posted on 03/02/2022 10:03:33 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: Meet the New Boss
The Russian MOD says that the Russian military has sustained 498 killed in action and 1,597 wounded in action in Ukraine so far

If that is the official number rest assured it is far higher.

20 posted on 03/02/2022 10:03:35 AM PST by cpdiii (CANE CUTTER-DECKHAND-ROUGHNECK-OILFIELD CONSULTANT-GEOLOGIST-PILOT-PHARMACIST )
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