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To: Renfrew

That’s nothing new, Russia’s armies have mostly been inept. They usually only at defense, and mostly because of winter. The Crimean War was between two inept armies.


2 posted on 02/28/2022 6:54:41 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
That’s nothing new, Russia’s armies have mostly been inept. They usually only at defense, and mostly because of winter. The Crimean War was between two inept armies.

The great strength of Western troops in the Cold War was that we allowed our tactical commanders to be flexible, whereas that wasn't true in the Soviet Bloc model.

7 posted on 02/28/2022 6:57:27 PM PST by Lazamataz (The forces of fascism and oppression are on the move in North America. We cannot let tyranny stand!)
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To: nickcarraway

Quantity has a quality all its own. The Russians managed to conquer a huge empire and subjugate many nationalities in their lands. They were never good at logistics and tactics but ultimately they prevailed.


21 posted on 02/28/2022 7:02:12 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: nickcarraway

One person with a high power rifle can decimate a tank crew thats not buttoned up. You take out the tank commander, its all downhill from there.


27 posted on 02/28/2022 7:05:16 PM PST by Newbomb Turk
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To: nickcarraway

> That’s nothing new, Russia’s armies have mostly been inept. <

Much of what the author mentioned was true about the Red Army even as it was rolling back the Nazis late in the war. There was very little improvisation, and very little deviation from the plans. But by 1943 the Red Army was lead by very competent generals. What is the quality of the generals leading the Russian army today?


28 posted on 02/28/2022 7:05:46 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: nickcarraway

Stalingrad was pretty badass though?


30 posted on 02/28/2022 7:06:28 PM PST by Borges
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To: nickcarraway

The Russians are fond of “flesh wave” tactics. Tanks are expensive, lives are cheap.

CC


57 posted on 02/28/2022 7:24:04 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: nickcarraway

Yes they were really inept in WWII. So inept they drove all the way to Berlin, drunk on vodka.


96 posted on 02/28/2022 8:02:15 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: nickcarraway
One of the things that seems to be missed here is this is a cousin vs cousin war.

Many of the admirable traits of the WW2 Russian Army. doggedness on defense, extreme national zealotry, an indomitable toughness, and a willingness to make extreme self scarifies also are traits of the Ukrainians. After all they were part of that WW2 Russian army.

It may be foolish of us to underestimate the power of the Russia Army but by the same token it very foolish to underestimate the power of the Ukrainian Army.

The Ukrainians have a long and bitter history with Russia.

With in living memory some 5 million Ukrainian were deliberately starved to death by Stalin's Russian government. The West largely ignored or downplayed the Holodomor. For the Ukrainians it is an ever presents dark memory.

103 posted on 02/28/2022 8:07:52 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: nickcarraway

In light of Operation Bagration you might want to rethink the comments you posted.


122 posted on 02/28/2022 9:04:22 PM PST by robowombat (Orth, all)
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To: nickcarraway

They didn’t do too good against the Finns over eighty years ago, not at first anyway. The Russian bear never learns.


146 posted on 03/01/2022 7:12:40 AM PST by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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