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To: Tell It Right
Agreed about energy. The people running our energy infrastructure are clowns. If it weren't a political disaster for them, they'd make gasoline, natural gas, etc. so damned expensive that average folks couldn't afford it. See, their goal is to train us, coerce us, force us. After all it is mother earth that they are protecting and at all costs.

They are not our friends. They are our enemies. So it is very wise to protect yourself if you have the resources and make yourself less dependent upon them and the energy infrastructure in general. They are hell bent on destroying the energy infrastructure (and anyone who gets in the way).

Solar on your house. Good idea. Depends I guess. That is the trick — the ROI curve. It is not cheap (thousands or tens of thousands of dollars) and it can take a while to break even. Parameters in the ROI equation — current energy rates, cost of installation, cost of maintenance, tax rebates, how much the power company pays you for the energy generated, how much you are saving in energy each period....

Other things to consider... 1. can it power the home without the grid being operational; 2. do not lease it. Pay for it outright if possible. #1 may not be practical but it would be nice to charge cell phones, a small load, etc. while the power grid is down. But my understanding is that solar system on your house shuts down if the power grid goes down.

BTW, I drive a hybrid car. Although all-electric vehicles are NOT WISE in my opinion. A hybrid simply makes a gasoline engine more efficient. Have I reached the ROI point? Probably not. Lol. Not yet anyway.

46 posted on 02/28/2022 2:48:56 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345
Yes, if the grid power goes down (i.e. because of a storm) a person's home solar system goes down too, but only if they've signed up for the power buyback program. If, like me, you bought an inverter with a feature for "no output" (because my power provider doesn't do "net metering" I'd have to pay a large monthly fee to sell power to the utility at a tiny fraction of the rate they charge us, thus I don't participate in that program, thus I bought an inverter that I set to not put power onto the grid even if I have no use for that power), then when the power goes out my solar system supplies power to the house. It's kind of like a gas generator backup in that it won't power the whole house, just whatever circuits I put into a separate panel just for backup. So it'll run my variable speed heat pump, my water heater, my hot tub, and a handful of lights and outlets throughout the house. Of course, in that scenario I ration my power so that my home batteries last through the night until the sun comes back out (again, much like with a gas backup generator). Another thing I do is pay attention to the weather. If it's going to storm in a day or two I set my inverter to put all solar power into the batteries unless the batteries are charged, and to not draw power from the batteries. The idea is to save the 30 kWh of battery storage for backup in case the power goes out at night. Then when the storms pass I set the inverter back into save money mode (charge the batteries only if my solar is more than what the house needs at that time, and draw power from the batteries before drawing from the grid if the solar is not producing what the house needs).

I'm looking at getting an EV if I can get a truck version cheap enough. I'm thinking of the F-150 Lightning. Part of my math on the ROI is expecting to get 30% to 50% of all of my miles for free by charging it on days I have excess solar power beyond what I need to power my house and my home batteries. I'm married and we need two cars anyway, so we'll keep one gas car to have the best of both worlds with EV and gas.

48 posted on 02/28/2022 7:02:11 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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