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Ammo clause on Biden's Russia sanctions could soon make shooting very expensive Could impose restrictions on permanent imports of certain Russian firearms
wnd.com ^ | 2/25/2022 1723 hrs et | Jacob Gurney

Posted on 02/27/2022 8:18:56 AM PST by rktman

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To: rktman
I wonder if there would be much push back if someone wanted to usurp/modify/suspend the 13th or 19th amendments. Nah, probably not.

Well,

All Amendments Are Equal, But Some Amendments Are More Equal Than Others!

21 posted on 02/27/2022 8:46:58 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

I think AK’s like
Steel cased.


22 posted on 02/27/2022 8:47:17 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Make His Paths Straight!)
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To: MercyFlush

Wow, I had not heard that America was in a war with Russia. Do you have some breaking news?


23 posted on 02/27/2022 8:52:30 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
I'm totally fine with stopping Russian ammo imports and meeting that demand with domestic production.

And the Marxist Lefties you are helping out, are totally fine with suing domestic ammunition manufacturers out of business with the support you have just given them.

24 posted on 02/27/2022 8:55:46 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot

Not so critical for an AK. Lacquered steel is fine there. The wedge shape of the chamber makes it extract easily, and the AK extractor is harder than the steel casing so it doesn’t wear. You can use steel for decade in an AK since it was designed for it. Not reloadable.
The problem comes when you use it in a 9mm pistol or nearly straight rifle case like an AR or M1 Carbine. They can stick in a chamber and horrifyingly rip the casehead off and you are seriously not clearing that. You can destroy the softer extractors too.

AK steel is fine, but never ever in our rifles. Just not worth it.


25 posted on 02/27/2022 8:59:36 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
I'm willing to pay a few extra cents a round to make that happen.

Isn't that patriotic of you!

From your statement I am assuming that the highest caliber firearm you own is a BB gun. For instance, the difference between Wolf and domestic brands for 7.62×39mm has been far more than “a few extra cents a round” recently. Wolf and the other Russian brands have been around $.35 a round compared $2.00 a round or more for Remington if you could even find it. And that is the real goal here. In the calibers we are talking about domestic companies don't even make it for the most part.

And I don't even keep track of such things very closely since I reload most of my 7.62×39mm and Nagant handgun ammo. Of course, I have a bunch of corrosive berdan primed spam cans stockpiled for Armageddon but that is another story.

26 posted on 02/27/2022 9:03:11 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: DesertRhino

I’m an American. I don’t have Russian rifles.... I have American rifles.


27 posted on 02/27/2022 9:04:38 AM PST by CarmichaelPatriot (Recovering Kalifornian... Loving Alabama!)
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To: MercyFlush

Doesn’t matter if the profits still flow back there.


28 posted on 02/27/2022 9:06:23 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.)
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To: Charles Martel
The sanctions add additional restrictions to exports on missile-related and nuclear goods and technology, the release states.

Can we use this retroactively to chuck Hillary in the hoosegow over the Uranium One controversy? Yeah, I doubt it.

How about when her husband, Bent Bill Clinton, transferred US Ballistic Missile Stage Separation Technology and Multiple Independent Reentry Vehicle Technology to the Communist Chinese Army in exchange for Campaign Contributions for the DNC from Charlie Trie?

Would that count?

29 posted on 02/27/2022 9:07:39 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: fireman15

Why would you knowingly fund our enemy? Just to save a few bucks?

WTF?


30 posted on 02/27/2022 9:08:10 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.)
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To: rktman

proves me one thing:
good ol’cowboy lever action rifles should not have trouble finding the caliber necessary for its ‘diet’.

it may not look ‘woo woo’, it might not load and shoot nasty pointed bullets, it might not have detachable and/or big round drum magazines, but unlike those things, you can keep loading as long as you carry bullets, it might just go one bang when you press the trrgger, but your one zhould be sufficient - downrange.


31 posted on 02/27/2022 9:17:31 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: fireman15
Actually, the highest caliber I own is a .45-70 deer rifle. Don't really see a need for anything more than that.

Maybe you consider it more important to save a few bucks on ammo than you do to support manufacturing ammo domestically, but I don't. Certain industries that are qualify as critical for national security should be solely sourced domestically, and ammunition is one of those. Further, when you buy Russian ammunition, you are helping to keep Russian ammo factories in business. Can't really bring myself to do that.

32 posted on 02/27/2022 9:30:40 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Why would you knowingly fund our enemy? Just to save a few bucks?

Give me a break! I said in my post that I reload my guns from Eastern Block countries. But it is interesting to see who is buying into Biden's ridiculous political theater. I assume that you are into MMA and pro-wrestling as well. The Russian people are not our enemies and Putin is now playing the part of the villain for the benefit of our own petty dictators who are starting to get push back. Putin for the most part hasn't even shut down the power, phones, cell phones, and high speed internet in the Ukraine.

Vladimir Putin's funniest memes - Daily Star

33 posted on 02/27/2022 9:32:02 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

“I’m totally fine with stopping Russian ammo imports and meeting that demand with domestic production. Seems to me like subsidizing Russian ammo manufacturing capability rather than our own wasn’t a good idea from the jump.
I’m willing to pay a few extra cents a round to make that happen.”

It not just a few extra cents per round.
The big problem is there isn’t enough American capacity to meet the demand.
American companies are un-willing to spend the money to meet the market demands which can be quite cyclic and subject to the political cycles eg Democrats are very good gun and ammo salesmen.
Bush 1, killed off Chinese ammo sales and now Biden has chopped Russian ammo sales.
We are now short on ammo.
Get the idea? RINOs and Democrats want us disarmed.
Interesting that in Ukraine the first thing they did was start to hand out guns to civilians and tech them how to make Molotov cocktails.
What is the chance a Democrat or GOPe government would do that?


34 posted on 02/27/2022 9:35:57 AM PST by rellic
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Well, I am so proud of you! Could you even buy Russian ammo in .45-70... doubtful? And if you actually read my post you would see that I reload for all of my eastern block firearms. Even the spam can's full of surplus berdan primed ammo came from Romania. The only guns I have that were made in Russia came from WWII.

But I also do not buy into the political theater going on right now. Because I am not an idiot. The Russian people are no longer our enemy and Putin is just playing his part as villain in this political theater that seems custom made to take the heat off the petty dictators who have been systematically destroying freedom in their own supposedly free countries.

35 posted on 02/27/2022 9:41:02 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: rellic
It's basic supply and demand. When you import cheap ammo from overseas, you are making it harder for American manufacturers to compete because they are getting undercut. So, domestic production drops. Cutting Russian imports shifts that demand back to U.S. manufacturers, who will respond by investing more in production to fill the gap left by the banning of Russian ammo.

That's just fundamental economics. Yes, some ammo will become more expensive, and that's the price that we pay because Americans won't work as cheaply as will Russians.

36 posted on 02/27/2022 9:42:24 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: fireman15

Into MMA?

No. And even if I was, what does that have to do with anything.

Clown post.


37 posted on 02/27/2022 9:43:28 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
No. And even if I was, what does that have to do with anything.

I am sorry to hear that. People who have bought completely into this political theater also tend to believe what they see on professional wrestling and MMA. You are probably really missing out on something that you would find very enjoyable.

38 posted on 02/27/2022 9:49:41 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot
Real ammo has a brass case.

That's kind of like saying "Real ammo doesn't have 'millimeter' in the name"...

;>)

39 posted on 02/27/2022 9:50:35 AM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Shoeless Joe" played for the White Sox; "Clueless Joe" lives in the White House...)
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To: fireman15
MMA and pro-wrestling

one is a competitive sport and the other is a scripted performance ... your case, which I don't disagree with, would be stronger if you don't equate the two ...
40 posted on 02/27/2022 9:54:53 AM PST by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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