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You guys are utterly delusional.

Every Russian officer is trained in how the Battle of Stalingrad was won. The German 6th Army was encircled. Food cut off, in winter. In just a few weeks they were too weak from starvation to even attempt a breakout. A few weeks after that roughly 250,000 troops surrendered and were marched off to POW camps, where cannibalism held sway. The war ended 1945. So many lives were lost at Stalingrad that the Soviets would not release them until 1949, and the senior German officers . . . not until 1955.

Kiev will run out of food. There is no need to advance and send troops door to door. They are encircled and the Russians will probably encourage more Ukrainians to travel to and join the defense of Kiev. It would increase food consumption.

Then, soon, they will be told all the food they need for the city’s children is just minutes away. All they need do is overthrow the government, or have that government surrender.

This is textbook stuff from Russian military academies. Celebrating their “failure” to take cities is just absurd.


83 posted on 02/26/2022 8:40:57 AM PST by Owen
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To: Owen

LOL.

Except here, the Russian troops are Paulus’s 6th Army. The “city” of Stalingrad and the people who lived there survived, just like Kiev will.


100 posted on 02/26/2022 9:20:58 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: Owen

They have made multiple attempts to enter the city. The result can be seen of videos and photos of dead Russians splayed across the streets of Kiev. If the plan is to lay seige to Kiev and wait the weeks/months it’ll take to starve them out, they’re doing it wrong.


108 posted on 02/26/2022 9:32:09 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Owen

Kiev will not run out of food. Too many ways to get food in. It’s more likely that the Russians will run out of food. Their logistical train is much easier to disrupt.
Those 140,000 Russian troops not sent in are likely mostly support troops. If not, Russia has a huge problem.

In WW II, for every combat arms soldier, there were 9-10 soldiers supporting them.

When I was in the Army in thr mid-1970s, I was assigned to the 295th Supply Company. On D-Day, June 6, 1944, the 295th Supply company landed on Omaha Beach at D-Day + 1 hour. That’s how important logistics is.


134 posted on 02/26/2022 1:01:43 PM PST by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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To: Owen

The Checneyians did everything right in Grozny and the Russians leveled the city. Cause that’s how the Russians roll. They Russians took huge losses, but ultimately prevailed. I doubt the Ukrainians are as hard as the Chechynians, but they seem to be punching above their weight. They question is whether or not the will go all Grozny on Kiev. I hope not, but it’s certainly on the table.


150 posted on 02/26/2022 6:47:26 PM PST by Smogger
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