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To: gas_dr

You can respectfully disagree all you want. I know what I have seen with my own eyes & the patients I have dealt with all over the US.

I was also helping my friend advocate for her brother who was admitted to the hospital I work at. We were expressly told by the CCM that if he arrested, they would not do CPR. Palliative care was consulted without the family’s involvement & there was quite a bit of bullying to “withdraw care”

That is not their decision to make. That is the family’s. There is medical tyranny going on all over the place.

My testimony mirrors that of countless nurses & patient advocates across the US. You can speak to nurses are United States for Medical Freedom and the American Front lIne Nurses - you’ll have your fill of anecdotes


39 posted on 02/13/2022 2:47:00 PM PST by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel & a deplorable. )
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To: surroundedbyblue

He also works at a “hospital” that has never had a vaxxed patient in his ICU. They are all unvaxxed. Zero credibility


42 posted on 02/13/2022 2:50:49 PM PST by roving (Vaxxers Suddenly Eager To Be Pro-Choice)
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To: surroundedbyblue

As a physician I simply disagree. We are not seeing this with our colleagues and groups. The clinical situation may influence the length in which ACLS is attempted. But you are confusing two issues. Palliative care is a reasonable consultation to get allows a full understanding of all options. I am comfortable having that discussion with families. Some are not.

If you believe that patient rights are being violated and that code status is not honored then please report that to the regulatory agencies. That should be investigated. But as for wide spread practice this is a very doubtful statement.


43 posted on 02/13/2022 2:53:37 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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