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The Vax does not work so why use it? (Sunbray)
www.brayincandy.com ^ | 1/30/22 | bray

Posted on 01/30/2022 6:19:07 AM PST by bray

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To: afchief

You should read some credible sources such as:

Deadly Choices: How the Anti-Vaccine Movement Threatens Us All Paperback – March 10, 2015
https://amazon.com/Deadly-Choices-Anti-Vaccine-Movement-Threatens/dp/0465057969/ref=sr_1_2?crid=2W5NSK1X8E88W&keywords=offit&qid=1643565361&sprefix=offit%2Caps%2C123&sr=8-2

or this:

Do You Believe in Magic: Vitamins, Supplements, and All Things Natural: A Look Behind the Curtain Paperback – May 13, 2014
https://amazon.com/Do-You-Believe-Magic-Supplements/dp/0062222988/ref=sr_1_8?qid=1643565463&refinements=p_27%3APaul+A+Offit+MD&s=books&sr=1-8&text=Paul+A+Offit+MD

or, especially this:

Bad Faith: When Religious Belief Undermines Modern Medicine Hardcover – March 10, 2015

https://amazon.com/Bad-Faith-Religious-Undermines-Medicine/dp/0465082963/ref=sr_1_10?qid=1643565539&refinements=p_27%3APaul+A+Offit+MD&s=books&sr=1-10&text=Paul+A+Offit+MD


41 posted on 01/30/2022 10:01:34 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: bray

My uber-lib brother-in-law recently contracted covid. He is triple-vaxxed. He still got it. And yet, he is urging, nay, SCREAMING for people to get vaxxed. His wife, my uber-lib sister, is is also SCREAMING for people to get vaxxed,even though she can see that it does absolutely nothing. She is utterly convinced Is that anyone who does not get vaxxed is simply being a selfish a-hole.
She is one of these people who would love to see all the unvaxxed get rounded up and put into camps.

Even though she and her husband have been shown in no uncertain terms that this vaxx does absolutely nothing, they are so so deeply entrenched in liberal thought that there is absolutely nothing that can be said to them to show them that they were wrong. To them, getting the vaxx means nothing except being obedient to what the government tells you to do because, in their eyes, the government is always right and can do no wrong…. Especially if the government is run by Democrats.

As for me, it is and always shall be….They will put a bullet in my head before they put a shot in my arm.


42 posted on 01/30/2022 10:06:25 AM PST by hoagy62 (DTCM&OTTH)
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To: afchief

afchief wrote: “If you would educate yourself on vaccines you might think otherwise.”

Your article begins with this false statement: “There has been much recent concern regarding giving vaccines to children and the related side effects. Particularly concerning is the link between early childhood vaccines and autism.”

Anyone who sees a link between autism and vaccination isn’t trustworthy:

“Do Vaccines Cause Autism?”
https://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/do-vaccines-cause-autism

The research is clear: Vaccines don’t cause autism. More than a dozen studies have tried to find a link. Each one has come up empty.

MMR Vaccine Controversy
The debate began in 1998 when British researchers published a paper stating that the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine caused autism.

The paper itself later was officially labeled “fraud” by England’s General Medical Counsel, but it triggered a lot of debate over the safety of the vaccine which continues to this day.

The study looked at only 12 children, but it received a lot of publicity because at the same time, there was a rapid increase in the number of kids diagnosed with the condition.

The paper’s findings led other doctors to do their own research into the link between the MMR vaccine and autism. At least 12 follow-up studies were done. None found any evidence the vaccine caused autism.

An investigation into the 1998 study also uncovered a number of problems with how it was conducted. The journal that published it eventually retracted it. That meant the publication no longer stood by the results.

In 2010, the General Medical Counsel declared that the paper was not only based on bad science, but was deliberate fraud and falsifications by the head researchers, Dr. Andrew Wakefield and revoked his medical license. Investigators learned that a lawyer looking for a link between the vaccine and autism had paid Wakefield more than £435,000 (equal to more than a half-million dollars).


43 posted on 01/30/2022 10:06:57 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“Time to move on”.

Tell that to Big Pharma and Big Government and Big Media.

They are still pushing the vaxxes and the boosters.


44 posted on 01/30/2022 10:07:38 AM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: DugwayDuke

You really are brainwashed......You sound just like a STUPID liberal........

Duty to Warn Update: Proof That Big Vaccines and the CDC Commit Consumer Fraud

https://medicalveritas.org/big-vaccines-fraud/

Revealed: The Vaccines Induce Cellular Ageing

https://www.europereloaded.com/revealed-vaccine-induced-cellular-ageing/

DO YOU KNOW WHAT’S IN A VACCINE?

https://learntherisk.org/vaccines/ingredients/

FIFTEEN studies show natural immunity better than vaccines

https://www.wnd.com/2021/08/fifteen-studies-show-natural-immunity-better-vaccines/

Do Vaccines Make Us Healthier?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=f1L_UWTkFf4

Vaccines – Shocking Truths – Doctors Speaking Out…

http://entityart.co.uk/vaccines-shocking-truths-doctors-speaking-out-poisons-quotations-statistics-history-anti-vaccination/

https://thetruthaboutvaccines.com/


45 posted on 01/30/2022 10:33:55 AM PST by afchief
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To: hoagy62

Shoot my link to them and see what they say. Have them refute one thing rather than simply namecall.


46 posted on 01/30/2022 10:38:56 AM PST by bray (The Vax is fake and deadly)
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To: DugwayDuke

You cannot compare a real vaccine with mRNA since there are no dead or dying cells from the disease like polio or TB.


47 posted on 01/30/2022 10:42:59 AM PST by bray (The Vax is fake and deadly)
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To: Tommy Revolts

Well said, it is pure brainwashing to make people do things they would never do normally. If you have the vax you have skin in the game and wish everyone did too.


48 posted on 01/30/2022 10:46:22 AM PST by bray (The Vax is fake and deadly)
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To: DugwayDuke

Apples and oranges. This vax has no dead cells from the disease like every other vaccine.


49 posted on 01/30/2022 10:49:22 AM PST by bray (The Vax is fake and deadly)
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To: SamAdams76

“It’s just the flu bro. We’ve been had.”

My wife is a critical care RN that works with critical covid patients daily. You are as dumb as a sack oof hammers.


50 posted on 01/30/2022 11:07:27 AM PST by devane617 (RUN FOR LOCAL ELECTED OFFICE! COUNCIL,SCHOOL BOARD, ETC.)
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To: devane617
Very easy to say anonymously on an internet forum.

You did not mention underlying conditions that have nothing to do with the fake pandemic.

51 posted on 01/30/2022 11:11:13 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 24 days away from outliving John Hughes)
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To: afchief

afchief wrote: “You really are brainwashed......You sound just like a STUPID liberal........”

I feel sorry for your children.


52 posted on 01/30/2022 11:53:53 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: 11th_VA

Immunology 101.. your body is not defenseless. The body’s immune system is qiet complicated and amazing. We just got through covid n my husband has tons of comorbidities. Sorry to hear about your friend in the hospital. Some hospitals are still treating the way they were in early 2020. I witbessed this because hubbys sats dropped significantly. We left that 2020 hospital and went down the road. It was like night n day.
I know more people over 80 who got it n survived. I cannot understand why our dear friend in her 30s died, but i know where she was treated. She is singing her chorus with Christ face to face. My heart breaks for her family, but we are getting through it.


53 posted on 01/30/2022 11:54:49 AM PST by momincombatboots (Ephesians 6... who you are really at war with. )
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To: bray

bray wrote: “Apples and oranges. This vax has no dead cells from the disease like every other vaccine.”

Which is a positive development since it limits the harm that can be caused by that type of vaccine.


54 posted on 01/30/2022 11:56:40 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Are you now criticizing earlier vaccines like Measles and Polio because they had dead virus cells?


55 posted on 01/30/2022 12:22:12 PM PST by bray (The Vax is fake and deadly)
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To: bray

bray wrote: “Are you now criticizing earlier vaccines like Measles and Polio because they had dead virus cells?”

Just saying there is a better way. The problem is the virus cells aren’t always dead. Have you heard about “Cutter Labs”? Some children became sick and died following vaccination with ‘killed’ polio virus. Cutter Labs did not follow Salk’s detailed protocol to manufacture the vaccine, failing to kill the virus. As a result, children were incorrectly injected with the live virus.

The mRNA vaccines do not contain the actual virus so they cannot infect patients.


56 posted on 01/30/2022 12:58:14 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Good point, 10 people were killed and 40,000 injured from a vaccine that did work. Here you have over 20,000 killed and over a million injured for a fake vax that does not work.

Why are we still using it?


57 posted on 01/30/2022 1:33:48 PM PST by bray (The Vax is fake and deadly)
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To: bray

bray wrote: “Here you have over 20,000 killed and over a million injured for a fake vax that does not work. Why are we still using it?”

We’re still using it because it works, because it’s saved over a million lives here in the US alone, and, despite the antivaxxer fear-mongering propaganda, it hasn’t killed 20K or injured over a million.


58 posted on 01/30/2022 2:18:04 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

You don’t really believe that do you? That million is
people who supposedly died with covid which they could all anything covid. Most died from respirators and Remdesivir when they could have been saved by ivermectin.

You have got the shot so now you want to Virtue Grandstand with fake data and will never change your mind since you have blood in the game. I pray every day I am wrong and you pray every day you are right.


59 posted on 01/30/2022 5:06:47 PM PST by bray (The Vax is fake and deadly)
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To: DugwayDuke

My Children are grown in their 20s and 30s.......NEVER any shots and breast fed for up to 2 years

Guess what...........THEY ARE NEVER SICK!!!!!!!!!


60 posted on 01/31/2022 12:17:32 AM PST by afchief
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