I have to disagree with you re Ramsey vs Irvine.
One episode of irvine’s show was about Bobby helping out a restaurant owned by two gay guys. But Bobbo said he couldn’t fix the restaurant until he, Robert, mended the boys’ relationships. That sent me heaving that night’s dinner into the toilet.
If I’m not mistaken Roberta also briefly had an attempt at having an afternoon show a la Dr Phil which was about him counseling people with relationship problems.
Plus Irvine is an utter a-hole.
Nope there’s no Robert Irvine showing up on my television any more.
Appreciate your input.