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Italian Retirees Could be Forced to Present COVID Pass to Get Pension
breitbart.com ^ | 1/22/2022 | Chris Tomlinson

Posted on 01/22/2022 10:18:12 AM PST by rktman

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To: rktman

So either way they’re not going to get it? Fight back before it’s too late.


21 posted on 01/22/2022 11:07:00 AM PST by Trillian
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To: Blue Collar Christian

Well given that FBI lackey McCabe got his pension back, I guess it will not happen here.


22 posted on 01/22/2022 11:08:53 AM PST by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: I want the USA back

It’s the media, it’s what they do.


23 posted on 01/22/2022 11:09:59 AM PST by SkyDancer ( I make airplanes fly, what's your super power?)
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To: rktman

At least the Italians recognize natural recovery.


24 posted on 01/22/2022 11:12:24 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: SamAdams76

“However the money withheld during the ages 62-67 (assuming your FRA age is 67) would start getting paid back to you at FRA. So you would end up with a higher monthly payment at FRA.”

Question -

You would be paid back ONLY the total amounts withheld?

Would your monthly benefit then be reduced to that amount set at the date you started collecting?


25 posted on 01/22/2022 11:30:19 AM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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To: rktman

That’s horseshit. Setting requirements for pensions after the fact is illegal. If it wasn’t part of the process to file for the pension in the first place, they shouldn’t be allowed to make it a requirement at any point afterwards. I’ve been retired, and receiving a pension since 2003. If New York State suddenly required me to get the jabs, I’d be heading down to Albany right quick, to pick a few of those Democrat bastards off, and that c*nt of a Governor.


26 posted on 01/22/2022 11:40:18 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Blue Collar Christian
"It’ll never happen here..."

That's what my youngest son said about vaccine mandates.

27 posted on 01/22/2022 11:40:53 AM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: mass55th

“It’ll never happen here...”

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That’s what my youngest son said about vaccine mandates.


That’s what a handful of FReepers said, as well.

🙃


28 posted on 01/22/2022 11:43:19 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12 )
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To: rktman

Funny how Progressives haven’t asked for that here.
Also funny how you have to show your ID to get govt assistance.
Clown world


29 posted on 01/22/2022 11:46:13 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans ( )
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” I’m 2 years away from full SS benefits.”

I took it at 62. Get it while you can!


30 posted on 01/22/2022 11:48:44 AM PST by ProudVet97
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To: 1FreeAmerican
To explain it simply (as the SSA jargon can overcomplicate everything), it goes something like this:

Let's say your FRA is 67 but you filed at 62 and your monthly benefit was $1,000/mo (to use a round number). However, you worked during that time and over the five years you had $36,000 withheld over that period of time (to use another round number).

At age 67, the SSA would take that $36,000 of withheld benefits into account (three years of benefits) and start paying you as though you started collecting benefits at 65 (three years) instead of at 62.

Which would be $1,259/mo instead of the $1,000/mo you were eligible for at 62 (8% increase per year by waiting).

So in practice, you would recover that withheld money back over the next 139 months (about 11.5 years).

All of the above is not factoring in COLA but hopefully that explains the basic methodology.

31 posted on 01/22/2022 12:12:22 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 35 days away from outliving John Hughes)
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To: rktman

Are folks beginning to see (and understand) that the biblical concept of a Tribulation period where the no one will be able to buy or sell without receiving the ‘mark of the beast’ is becoming entirely feasible? Biblical truth is fast moving from the realm of conspiracy theory/religious fanaticism to that of very likely feasible . . . and there are a lot of folks not ready for it.

Escape the coming terror by understanding that Jesus Christ is the ONLY way, the ONLY truth and the ONLY way, and that no man may come to God except through Him. Place your faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the Cross and I guarantee you by the word of the living God that you will NOT BE HERE when this comes down.

“Except ye repent, ye must also likewise perish” (Luke 13:3, 5).


32 posted on 01/22/2022 12:37:25 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

famous last words


33 posted on 01/22/2022 1:11:00 PM PST by Karoo
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To: SamAdams76

The recovery time is why I took mine starting the day I retired. I was 64 and couple months at that time. I got laid off, retired and started my SS all at the same time. Yeah, but where is it all now? LOL! With no guarantee of how long I’d be drawing my SS...............Take it when you can, if you can. Some folks don’t make 67. Just sayin’.


34 posted on 01/22/2022 1:45:48 PM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: rktman

Extortion.


35 posted on 01/22/2022 1:55:22 PM PST by dljordan
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

Amen!


36 posted on 01/22/2022 3:37:16 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (No weapon formed against me shall prosper! (Isaiah 54:17))
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“To explain it simply (as the SSA jargon can overcomplicate everything), it goes something like this:”

...I make 100k+ and I’m 63 and 7 months. If I file now, will they take every penny of my SS benefits until I’m FRA? Or do they take a portion?


37 posted on 01/23/2022 4:38:00 AM PST by albie
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To: albie

And so it continues. Can’t make this up, can predict it


38 posted on 01/23/2022 4:47:22 AM PST by dkGba
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To: albie
You are currently allowed to make $19,560 before Social Security starts taking $1 for every $2 made (in a job) after that.

If you made $100,000 even, that would leave $80,440 so up to $40,220 of your benefit would be deducted. So if your benefit is $3,352/mo or less, you would end up with zero. I'm suspecting if you file early, your benefit will be less than that.

You say you make $100k+ so almost certainly you will end up with zero. When you do hit FRA, the SSA will recalculate your benefits accordingly but you are probably better off waiting to file.

I'm in the same boat as you and I'm just going to hang in there until my FRA - or unless for some reason or other, I decide to quit my job and retire early.

39 posted on 01/23/2022 7:31:30 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 33 days away from outliving John Hughes)
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I thought about retiring early last year.

I knew I would make less from Social Security, and I calculated the breakeven point to be 12 years out.

But after three months I was bored as heck and went back to work. I write software and I get to Work from Home, so it’s been a good year for me.


40 posted on 01/23/2022 7:36:19 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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