Posted on 01/20/2022 1:46:49 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
President Joe Biden said today that any Russian troop movements across Ukraine’s border would constitute an invasion, saying that Moscow would “pay a heavy price” for such an action.
His stark warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin came in remarks from the White House and was another effort to clear up any confusion about the position of the U.S. and its NATO allies after Biden was heavily criticized Wednesday for saying a “minor incursion” by Russia would elicit a lesser response.
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mebbe joe should worry about the invasion on our border.
With the help of people who nuked our elections.
Muh! Our democracy!
I think Biden inadvertently revealed the details of the planning for various scenarios he would apparently have heard in strategy meetings.
I don’t think you can say it enough.
I can’t imagine what kind of storm we’re heading into.
In 1990 James Baker promised Gorbachev an “Austrian solution” in return for Soviet armed forces leaving Eastern Europe. Specially, we would not expand NATO eastward. The Russians feel totally lied to and betrayed, that our promises were worthless.
You can say, “Tough shit, Russia, that’s the way the ball bounces,” as we expanded NATO from Estonia to Romania, including missile bases in Poland etc.
But if you want to instigate a land war in Europe, there is no better way than to tell Russian we have the right to include Ukraine in NATO at our pleasure.
Ukraine and Belorussia have been “STRONGLY” part of Russia for many centuries. Their status as “independent nations” has mainly been a fiction. Because of the flat terrain and difficulty in defending Mother Russia from invasion, these 2 countries have been kept rigidly under Russia’s control as buffer states. So in the Russian psyche, the chance of Ukraine joining NATO is a chance worth going to war over.
If our diplomates are too stupid or mendacious to understand that, please don’t be surprised if the Russians move to secure eastern Ukraine by force of arms.
To Russia, this is EXACTLY like Communist China, during a period of extreme U.S. economic weakness, suborning, bribing and buying influence from Panama to finally Mexico, with a Mexican CCP puppet president “requesting” CCP armed forces to “guarantee their security against Yankee aggression.”
You can say, “that is not a good analogy,” but what you or I think means nothing. It’s what the Russians believe about Ukraine that counts.
We are stumbling stupidly into a land war in Europe, by refusing the simple promise of a neutral Ukraine, aka, “The Austrian Solution” that James Baker promised Gorbachev, even now at the last moment, in the last country.
Russia WILL go to war over Ukraine, and it’s because we are too proud and stupid to say, “Let Ukraine remain neutral, like Austria.”
We are “holding onto the right to invite any damn country into NATO,” and over this prideful blunder, we are going to blunder into war.
And unless we go nuclear, Russia will kick our asses and humiliate the West in Ukraine. Their theater-level military forces makes our ability to project regional power a trivial joke. They hold us in special disregard now after our humiliating and disgraceful exist from Afghanistan.
And the current POTUS is such a senile fool that he said on a world stage yesterday what he was not supposed to say out loud, that the U.S. position is that a small incursion would invite a small response. His cabinet and media sycophants have been cleaning up that mess all day.
God help us.
Speaking as a woman, Vlad is quite an attractive man.
Dangerous of course.
Biden looks like a closeup of athletes foot. And just as much of a threat.
Russia has already crossed their border. Biden means if he takes one more step. Biden says I double dog dare you!
I noticed that the fake “doomsday clock” hasn’t moved. It did, while Trump was president.
The decrepit old fool has brought the world closer to war than ever before, and no outrage from the left.
Agreed, and spot on.
Some of them are useful idiots, but most know exactly what they are doing. And they are dangerous people.
I would feel a little better if we had a political party fighting for us, but we don’t. We’re on our own.
I have the feeling that Putin is toying with Biden
“Is this what people voted for? Really? Nuclear war with Russia?”
Liz Cheney is getting a warm fuzzy feeling.
We would need to ask Xi and Putin for confirmation, but I suspect that “the Biden administration” is Obama’s illegal 3rd term with Ron Klain, Susan Rice, and Valerie Jarrett helping.
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