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To: fireman15

I just gave the report some time. There is mention of a large Israeli study and a large French study that found that previous infection lost its protective capability over time. These studies were not confirmed.

The problem with survival of a previous infection is (assuming you’re old) 1) you have to survive it. The old often do not. 2) There has to be a documented test and given so many claims of false positives, you can’t be sure a prior infection occurred. 3) All infections aren’t the same magnitude. A mild infection may confer weak immunity vs needing hospital oxygen that would challenge the immune system to be stronger.

This contrasts with vax, that has no false positive issue, that most old people survive, and all recipients receive the same dose.

Discussing this issue for the young is pointless. They were never at risk of death.


9 posted on 01/19/2022 9:38:46 PM PST by Owen
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To: Owen
I would point out that the problem with false positives has been with the PCR tests. The antibody tests which can be used to confirm that an infection has occurred do not suffer from a high false positive rate.

One of my best friends is being forced to resign from his position as a Battalion Chief after 35-year career. He came down with Delta a couple of months ago which was confirmed with PCR tests and also antibody tests. He is able to use these test results and his medical records for confirmation of immunity for foreign travel. But our governor ordered that all firefighters in our state be fired if they are not vaccinated. He is acknowledged by everyone on the department to be the most knowledgeable and valued Battalion Chief working for the department. Our governor is acknowledged to be the most stupid governor in our state's history.

11 posted on 01/19/2022 9:51:55 PM PST by fireman15
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To: Owen
This contrasts with vax, that has no false positive issue, that most old people survive, and all recipients receive the same dose.

I would point out that even in extremely aged groups that the vast majority of persons infected with Covid also survive. And all recipients receiving the same dose has no proven advantage to those receiving the vaccination. One size fits all solutions are rarely to any one's advantage in any type of situation.

The only advantage that vaccines have are preventing serious illness when efficacy is high. Currently, efficacy is not high against Omicron as is demonstrated by massive numbers of “break through cases” in highly vaccinated populations worldwide.

13 posted on 01/19/2022 10:02:52 PM PST by fireman15
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