Oh, I was comparing the same dose vs casual infection, the dosage of which in the infecting inhale is not known.
Vax weakens for sure. I would think in a few months death protection is probably down by 1/2.
Casual/natural infection we don’t know their dose during inhale. If it was a mild case, probably not many virus particles created defense.
As to vast majority, the numbers are *the reference case (18-29)* 65-74 were 64X more likely to die, 75-84 120X, and 85+ 470X more likely to die.
It’s always been pretty hard to address “vast majority”. That would require intentional infection of 85 yr olds to see how many live. That study is never ever going to happen. So you can imagine vast majority, but there is no evidence of that. Only different deaths among age groups.
It really is an impossible study. You have variant changes, seasons, different numbers of cases (virus totals) in the world outside the nursing home. The only way to test for vast majority is to infect intentionally 100,000 85+ folks and see how many live. That will never happen.
Can’t ignore them. It’s popular to say all they are losing is weeks, but Soc Sec keeps tabs on this stuff. They say the life expectancy of an 85 year old is 6 years. Quite a lot of life left.
No one responds exactly the same way to any virus. Even the same individual's immune system might be able to fight off an infection one day and not the next depending on the amount of sleep they have gotten recently, the amount of stress they are under, what they have eaten and how much, and a myriad of other factors all can make a difference. The type of exposure and the amount of viral load can make a huge difference as well. There are too many factors in play to quantify in any meaningful way.
Vax weakens for sure. I would think in a few months death protection is probably down by 1/2.
A pure guess on your part and likely not taking into account that repertory viruses are constantly mutating an evolving depending on the type and form. This is something which the "vaccines" are unable to handle. They were designed to combat a completely different pathogen that essentially no longer exists in the wild.
As we have seen with Omicron the transmissibility is now much higher but the seriousness of the symptoms is now typically much lower. Can an individual with a severely compromised immune system die “from” it as opposed to “with” it... maybe, but this is not nearly as likely as with previous strains. And the vaccines seem to have little if any protective value against omicron after the initial spike in immune system activity wears off. This is why all over the world populations with very high rates of vaccination have experienced huge spikes in their rates of infection, but deaths... not so much. So again, it is basically impossible to quantify the value of the vaccines after even a short period of time let alone in a "few months".
There seems to be a period after the injection with Omicron of negative vaccine efficacy. This helps explain why the fire department that I retired from as a Senior Hazmat Team Leader and Safety Officer with has more than 90% vaccine compliance currently has over twice the number of people off sick with than at any time period in its history. The persons who were scheduled to be fired for not getting the “vaccine” due to an order from our governor are currently being forced to work mandatory overtime to cover for their sick vaccinated brethren. Of course, the “unvaxxed” have been promised that they will still be fired as soon as the crisis has passed. But fear not, if it were not for the department's ability to test anyone with the sniffles under normal circumstances almost none of the “sick” have symptoms severe enough that they would have even bothered to stay home. There is also a perverse incentive caused by people being able to stay home with Covid and not have it count against their stored up sick time in a normal way.