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1 posted on 01/11/2022 7:57:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

No! I hate that song


2 posted on 01/11/2022 7:58:50 AM PST by Bob434
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No
Simply popping out of the birth canal here should NOT be 3nough .
A child should be the citizen of the country for which it parents are the legal citizens of .
If they are legal U.S. citizens ( both or one) then fine, no issues. But if they are the result of illegal entry to participate in illegal anchor-baby scamming , then absolutely not.

No other county on earth allows this scam . Neither should we .


4 posted on 01/11/2022 8:05:02 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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No.
Everyone should have go through the naturalization process.
Failure to earn citizenship should bar individuals from elected or appointed offices, and from holding most government jobs.


5 posted on 01/11/2022 8:05:37 AM PST by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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Of course not.

Service in the armed forces should be a requirement. Heinlein got this one right.


6 posted on 01/11/2022 8:13:15 AM PST by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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No, but we know that in today’s America that qualifies me as racist.

I also think everyone should do some form of public service for at least 2 years.


7 posted on 01/11/2022 8:14:03 AM PST by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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Does this even have to be asked anymore?

Simply starting by NOT giving citizenship to babies born here of illegal alien parents would remove a massive incentive to invade.

As for others here on the ninety zillion visa types, the real answer is to stop handing out visas.

We owe the illegals nothing. Their children are not “stateless”, and they arent Americans, and they shouldnt vote in our elections, EVER. They inherit their parents nationality. That means they can go home and live happily ever after.


8 posted on 01/11/2022 8:18:50 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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Why do the countries that leftists lionize and want to emulate not recognize birthright citizenship?


9 posted on 01/11/2022 8:19:49 AM PST by fwdude (My pronouns are "F*ck, Joe, Biden." Use them when addressing me or else. )
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There is NO LAW granting citizenship to kids born in the US ... if their parents are not either US citizens or citizens of another country who have LEGALLY immigrated to the US


11 posted on 01/11/2022 8:25:02 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style )
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Nope.

Loyalty to the country should count for something.

I love how the leftists think we should emulate Europe. So let’s do it like Switzerland.


12 posted on 01/11/2022 8:26:19 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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“F” NO!


13 posted on 01/11/2022 8:28:23 AM PST by spincaster
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Surprise! Being born on American soil was NEVER enough to receive citizneship. The Constitution requires them to be SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF.

But thanks to Clinton, Bush, and Obama, that requirement was quietly deleted from our constitution (just like the NBC requirement) and we got 10s of millions of new “American” citizens who came here to steal your jobs and your country, just like the deep state wanted.


14 posted on 01/11/2022 8:28:46 AM PST by imabadboy99
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And yet Senate Resolution 2 resulting from the McCain question of qualified Natural Born Citizen stated he was a Natural Born US citizen because both his parents were US citizens at the time of his birth (regardless of location).
17 posted on 01/11/2022 8:33:40 AM PST by RideForever (One of the CoVID naturally immune control group)
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It’s nice to have texts and legislation to support the idea of ending birthright citizenship, but in practical terms, the loosest definition of birthright citizenship has been the law of the land for at least two generations now. If there’s any going back in a real way, it will require something at the level of a constitutional amendment. Maybe not exactly an amendment per se, but sustained support at that level for multiple years and a positive, unambiguous Supreme Court ruling that affirms it. In a country as bitterly divided as ours is, with so many snakes in the grass waiting to bite any effort like this in the heels, I don’t know how it goes past the level of internet forum argument without a big change in strategy.


20 posted on 01/11/2022 8:48:13 AM PST by jz638
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In the 1997 movie “Starship Troopers”, citizenship in the futuristic USA is no longer a birthright.


21 posted on 01/11/2022 9:08:29 AM PST by indthkr
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Rethinking Citizenship— Should Born In The U.S.A. Be Enough?

It was never the intention of the framers of the 14th amendment to create this result. This result is mostly the result of activist judges interpreting the law that way.

See my tagline. That comes from John Bingham who was the chief proponent of the 14th amendment in the House of Representatives. The statement is from his speech on the House floor during the debate on the 14th amendment.

25 posted on 01/11/2022 9:31:18 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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ABS NOT


30 posted on 01/11/2022 9:44:31 AM PST by Henderson (blood is thicker than only water)
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The gold standard had always been "jus soli and jus sanguinis". To be a natural born citizen, one must at the time of birth be physically within the jurisdiction of the citizen nation, and born to parents (plural) who were also citizens of the nation at the time of their child's birth. Every one else is either an alien immigrant or a citizen naturalized at birth. We researched this extensively when Obama gained office. When you look the other way and ignore our Founders wisdom of the gold standard, you end up with Obama's, and McCain's, and now Kamala Harris. That's not 'success"; it's abject failure.


31 posted on 01/11/2022 9:51:36 AM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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Consider that if the USA paid "white hat hackers" to find weaknesses and loopholes in the Constitution, that they would be doing the same things that the desperate, evil Democratic elite are now doing to the ruin country in order to remain in power imo.

That being said, the high cost of generations of parents not making sure that their children are being taught about the federal government's constitutionally limited powers as the delegates to the Constitutional Convention had intended for those power to be understood is that many patriots are not able to argue against politically correct Democratic and RINO federal citizenship policy.

“3. The Constitution was written to be understood by the voters; its words and phrases were used in their normal and ordinary as distinguished from technical meaning; where the intention is clear, there is no room for construction and no excuse for interpolation or addition.” —United States v. Sprague, 1931.

More specifically, the paragraph below by Justice Joseph Story below is a good read about the purpose of the "uniform Rule of Naturalization Clause." The hilited part at bottom of paragraph is effectively the cost of what elite pirate Democrats are now trying to do to win votes to stay in power imo.

The bottom line is that misguided federal Democratic and RINO policy on citizenship requirements has effectively wrongly nullified what the founders had wanted the Naturalization Clause to prevent renegade states from doing imo.

In fact, the congressional record shows that post-Civil War lawmakers had also recognized the problem of renegade states allowing non-citizens to vote as a threat to the "uniform Rule of Naturalization Clause."

Corrections, insights welcome.

The ultimate remedy for unconstitutionally big, alleged election-stealing, Democratic Party-pirated federal and state governments, allegedly manufacturing crises to oppress everybody under their boots...

Consider that the states effectively have "veto power" over continued unpopular, unconstitutional actions of the feds.

More specifically, all the states can effectively “secede” from the unconstitutionally big federal government by doing the following.

Patriots need to primary federal and state elected officials who don't send voters email ASAP that clearly promises to do the following.

Federal and state lawmakers need to promise in their emails to introduce resolutions no later than 100 days after start of new legislative sessions that proposes an amendment to the Constitution to the states, the amendment limited to repealing the 16th and ill-conceived 17th Amendments (16&17A), little or no discussion required imo.

In fact, I challenge the states to ram the repeal amendment for 16&17A through the ratification process faster than Nancy Pelosi irresponsibly rammed unconstitutional Obamacare through the House. /semi-sarc

Again, insights welcome.

32 posted on 01/11/2022 9:56:04 AM PST by Amendment10
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Unless you are born of American citizens and have a valid federal (IRS) tax record spanning five-years, no citizenship...
38 posted on 01/11/2022 11:49:29 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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the “born in the US” law needs to be modified to read “born in the US of at least one US citizen.”

Children born of illegal aliens today are automatic citizens (anchor babies) which then cause their illegal parents to stay in the US. This is not right and must be changed.


39 posted on 01/11/2022 12:17:17 PM PST by elpadre ( ying them.)
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