[Bruce Campbells Chin]

Religion aside, I think this is one issue on which Dennis is wrong. People being inherently evil is the excuse for government to tell all of us what to do. Left to our own individual choices, we will do the wrong thing unless the more noble, smarter people in the government run our lives for us.

And a hell of a lot more people fought against the Nazis than fought for them.

[daniel1212]

"Religion aside, I think this is one issue on which Dennis is wrong. People being inherently evil is the excuse for government to tell all of us what to do. Left to our own individual choices, we will do the wrong thing unless the more noble, smarter people in the government run our lives for us."

While God hates a false balance, (Proverbs 11:1) the devil works extremes, such as in both excess consumption as well as extreme asceticism, and both lawlesness as well as excess regulation (relative to warrant), and here, while man is sinful by nature and only can (and does) do good by the grace of God, as God also condemns unjust weights, the devil uses the latter in making his self-exalting liberal elite to be as sinless, while all who do not heed them as such are demoted as ignorant - despite evidence to the contrary.